Dual Wield nerfed.

[kareface]

Well nobody would invite a WHM or BLM to a TP burn.

You joking right?

[Maxxthepenguin]

Well nobody would invite a WHM or BLM to a TP burn.

You joking right?

RDM + BRD onry kthxbai. If you are inviting a WHM you might as well get a DRK/WAR or SOMEWHERE to toss all that healing power.

[aurik]

Flash rocks in TP burns.

[Septimus]

Well nobody would invite a WHM or BLM to a TP burn.

Good thing noone does BRD, WHM, RDM, MNK, MNK, MNK. That kind of party would get horrible XP on skeletons in some kind of tomb place...

[epigram]

Third eye is nice.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Well nobody would invite a WHM or BLM to a TP burn.

Good thing noone does BRD, WHM, RDM, MNK, MNK, MNK. That kind of party would get horrible XP on skeletons in some kind of tomb place...

MNK party is not exactly a standard TP burn...

[Janice]

Yeah, cause a WHM being able to lower an undead's def by a lot for a max of 14 seconds sucks.

[Krandor]

WHM/DRK for Uleg[tab] Prz ><

[Kurp]

I don't really like going to U-Range now without a WHM. A three mage backline has always seemed to work best there. I'd maybe give up the WHM for a second BRD though!

[epigram]

Is SE hexa any good?

[Amara]

Well nobody would invite a WHM or BLM to a TP burn.

You joking right?

RDM + BRD onry kthxbai. If you are inviting a WHM you might as well get a DRK/WAR or SOMEWHERE to toss all that healing power.

Um, no.

If you've ever exped in ule or sea you'd know damn well a whm is just as good (if not better) than a rdm, though ideally you'd probably want all three. When things hit you for 400 and do tp moves that oneshot people if they aren't at 100% hp cure4 just doesn't compare; also stuff like bindga without a whm = broken chain.

[Janice]

Well nobody would invite a WHM or BLM to a TP burn.

Good thing noone does BRD, WHM, RDM, MNK, MNK, MNK. That kind of party would get horrible XP on skeletons in some kind of tomb place...

MNK party is not exactly a standard TP burn...

Yeah, its not like they burn tp or anything.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Well nobody would invite a WHM or BLM to a TP burn.

You joking right?

RDM + BRD onry kthxbai. If you are inviting a WHM you might as well get a DRK/WAR or SOMEWHERE to toss all that healing power.

Um, no.

If you've ever exped in ule or sea you'd know damn well a whm is just as good (if not better) than a rdm, though ideally you'd probably want all three. When things hit you for 400 and do tp moves that oneshot people if they aren't at 100% hp cure4 just doesn't compare; also stuff like bindga without a whm = broken chain.

I've done ule fine without a WHM. As a DRK/WAR. I WANT to exp sea but my server is full of wimps.

[epigram]

Anything with a drk/war isn't exactly standard tp burn.

[Paralyzed]

Maxx look at the last few pages. This is a prime example of why everyone hates you. Let it go, you're wrong.

Jesus.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Yeah, its not like they burn tp or anything.

But would you invite anything other then a MNK as a DD in a bone party. Its a completely different ballgame.

[XxSlusherxx]

Yeah, its not like they burn tp or anything.

But would you invite anything other then a MNK as a DD in a bone party. Its a completely different ballgame.

lol pld/nin in your ls can get his buffer back with clubs. and ulli range and sea NEED whm, or your going to lose a lot of xp for those merits.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Maxx look at the last few pages. This is a prime example of why everyone hates you. Let it go, you're wrong. Jesus.

Notice: I did let it go. But then heian decided I needed to answer some stuff. The main reason against DRK/WAR I've heard is people are too lazy to hit voke. I know it works, people I've partied with know it works.

[Heian]

Maxx look at the last few pages. This is a prime example of why everyone hates you. Let it go, you're wrong. Jesus.

Notice: I did let it go. But then heian decided I needed to answer some stuff. The main reason against DRK/WAR I've heard is people are too lazy to hit voke. I know it works, people I've partied with know it works.

Don't blame me for your stupidity. Everyone else is calling you out on it as well.

Oh and I would defeintly take a pimped out WHM before an average RDM to Ule. Range for a burn PT. Its getting to the point in Main Camp where my Burn PTs kill way too fast and we cap at around 11K per hour. I need to start experimenting in Ule. Range, lately I have had nothing but bad luck up there but it was because of the players not the setup.

[Zirk]

Now we figured that the base delay of your weapon has to be above 180 delay to be unaffected by the TP change.

Thanks for figuring this out. 300 base delay as 75 MNK + 48 delay from Destroyers = 348. Divide by 2 (I'm assuming since two punches in one round, similar to DW), and you get 174 delay per fist, which would explain why without rajas and/or brutal I sometimes get 4 TP a fist, although less often as two DW katanas since their delay is lower.

I might do some tests with like Wagh Baghnakhs (+60 delay) or Feral Fangs (+96 delay), both of which would give a delay per fist of equal to or greater than 180, and see if I get the traditional 5 TP EVERY fist and 16 return on Asuran Fists.