So, who's upgrading Relic GKT?

[Map]

Almost to stage 4 gkt myself, looking forward to putting up some high numbers with it myself, although I pull for my dynamis shell, so can't play around with /war or /thf =(

[Kuai]

i remember when slug shots used to do 1500+. free relic weapon for all rangers

[Kwijiboe]

/stare Kuai avatar

[Lordwafik]

Big Bada Boom.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1.../RNGRelic5.jpg

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http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/1585/barrage6mc.jpg

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[Nodachi]

@Kuai. Yeah lol, Barrage is sick, especially on Bird type mobs. Witnessed Mimoza (Relic Gun completed) do a 4k Barrage on a demon in Uleguerand during an EXP PT we had. It seriously one shotted it before we all engaged :/

Paya, a RNG in my LS was actually outdamaging -most- of my WS with Barrage, but main difference is Barrage is a 5 minute recast without merits right? I'm sure with RNG WS and regular DoT in the mix it all comes out to be even in the end, but I can do about 5 + WS in that time frame =X

Sorry, wasn't aware of this thread =Q I don't feel I know much about Kaiten yet but if you have any questions feel free to ask here or on my LJ and I'll try to answer/figure it out.

To Lordwafik who said "we had a lvl4 relic GK with us last week on demons, the numbers were nowhere near as impressive. I'd like to know exactly what he did with it to get the numbers." I doubt there's much difference between me and the person you mentioned, it's just that the mob difference between Xarc and Windy is so great, there's no way I could pull off the same numbers there. Like most relic WS I'm sure these numbers won't hold up on most HNM either, but if that's your sole reason for relic pieces, I don't feel you got it for the right reason

EDIT: Lol so, so tired. Had meant to say best of luck Map in finishing Amanomurakumo. Though with the success of your LS I'm sure you'll finish with ease in no time. I wish you were on the same server as I and Celine. We could put together some disgustingly fun SAM PTs :D

[Lockecole]

Holy shit...is that post-patch? I'm assuming thats Relic gun, since he's using Coronach. Red Curry probably also. My Mithra friend can do 2200+ Slug Shots with Red Curry, and thats only with an O-Bow + Darksteel I believe, so those SSes are highly believable.

[Nodachi]

Right, post patch. He had WAR sub, not sure what he ate for food though. for Mimoza's 4k and the massive damage pics Lordwafik posted, I'm sure the xDamage was kicking in on the relic. But that's apart of the weapon, and that's just disgusting lol.

EDIT: Sorry didn't realized you were talking about Lordwafik's post lol. So tired right now, apologies ; - ;

[Lordwafik]

Holy shit...is that post-patch? I'm assuming thats Relic gun, since he's using Coronach. Red Curry probably also. My Mithra friend can do 2200+ Slug Shots with Red Curry, and thats only with an O-Bow + Darksteel I believe, so those SSes are highly believable.

Yeah, Doshu (on fairy) started upgrading pre patch, and finished his gun post patch. People who say "all relics are shit" just need to know the exact thing that the relic needs to make it's numbers boom, whatever stat it is. I can beleive when the staff/club's numbers are poopoo, but the other numbers are nice.

I think there's a SS of muze's final heaven going off breaking 1.3k

Obviously, they're taking more damage since birds are weak to peircingg, however, you wont exactly find a thf exp'ing off skeletons or something.

Relics are hawt <3

[Genosync]

Barrage is a 5 minute recast without merits

Barrage is a 5 minute recast, period, cannot be merited, and is extremely gay that you can merit shit like Meditate and SneakAttack/TrickAttack but you can't fucking merit Barrage.

Someone needs to kill the fool over at SE that didn't see it.

[Demetrios]

Nice numbers, now try a Culverin +1 and a Heavy Shell =P.

[DrObvious]

Barrage is a 5 minute recast, period, cannot be merited, and is extremely gay that you can merit shit like Meditate and SneakAttack/TrickAttack but you can't fucking merit Barrage.

Someone needs to kill the fool over at SE that didn't see it.

Yeah, I can understand why they didn't want to allow barrage to be merited pre-patch, but they should add the option now

[savageboy]

i heard from a myspace forum that upgraded artifact hands give 7 shots instead of 5?
did he upgrade those?

[Helpoemer]

Yeah, Doshu (on fairy) started upgrading pre patch, and finished his gun post patch. People who say "all relics are shit" just need to know the exact thing that the relic needs to make it's numbers boom, whatever stat it is. I can beleive when the staff/club's numbers are poopoo, but the other numbers are nice.


Relics are hawt <3

can't club relic keep up with MNK PT damage?
better had lol, i'm almost stage 4 ¬_¬

[Not Kuno]

Holy shit RNG is fucking nuts. Win.

[Syn]

I'm workin on the Claustrum (Staff, on SMN). Why? just for the hell of it. I dont know anyone who has it, and I want to find out just how good the Gate of Tartarus additional effect is. One things for sure though, there's no way ittl match tachi kaiten. OMG, that is fing crazy....

I think the first relic to be completed on Ragnarok was staff by Caile. It didn't do really impressive damage on Qufim crabs but that's probably because he was wearing non dd gear.

[Lockecole]

Yeah, Doshu (on fairy) started upgrading pre patch, and finished his gun post patch. People who say "all relics are shit" just need to know the exact thing that the relic needs to make it's numbers boom, whatever stat it is. I can beleive when the staff/club's numbers are poopoo, but the other numbers are nice.


Relics are hawt <3

can't club relic keep up with MNK PT damage?
better had lol, i'm almost stage 4 ¬_¬

Lol...not even CLOSE, quit now. I've seen it in action, it's really depressing how bad it is, especially the Relic WS.

[Kurp]

can't club relic keep up with MNK PT damage?
better had lol, i'm almost stage 4 ¬_¬

No, it's not gonna keep up with a good monk. It would if warrior could use it maybe, with Hexa Strike it'd be even better. Paladin could do pretty well with it to as a pure DD weapon there too.

WHM just lacks in equipment and the club skill rating is fairly low to begin with. WHM can use a good amount of accuracy and haste gear, but they severly lack gear that adds a lot of attack and strength. That offers up a pretty low cap for potential damage, even with a relic maul. :/

[Lordwafik]

kinda funny how SAM and RNG and THF can just tear the fuck out of mobs, RNG more than anything. I wonder what other weapons out there that have the "big damage" potential. So far sword/h2h are good at DoT rather than chunks, nobody's done guttler yet, to see the damage on that, however one of my friends on asura has the currencies to get it to lvl4, he just needs the rare/ex, and Staff/club are toys.

The club, there's a club on my server with one of the most melee prepped JP taru WHM, but it still doesnt put up any big numbers. I think he might get better if he was sneaked, or even berserked, but he's usually whm/nin mjollonr/kraken.

At the end, it's a mage meleeing, you cant really expect nice numbers. I know for sure my rdm wont break double digits on mercy stroke unless it's something really weak (seeing how all the melees say birdies, i'll try windurst).

[Kurp]

At the end, it's a mage meleeing, you cant really expect nice numbers. I know for sure my rdm wont break double digits on mercy stroke unless it's something really weak (seeing how all the melees say birdies, i'll try windurst).

I hope you meant quadruple digits.

But yeah, you're right. You'll be leaps and bounds ahead of the next mage meleeing, but you're still a mage. None of the weapons are going to make a WHM, RDM, BLM, BRD a viable melee in most situations. You have an elite weapon, but you don't have the skill, traits, abilities, or equipment to back it up.

I'm pro anyone upgrading though if they have the means to do it. You just can't expect to make a superb melee DD out of a mage class, it just isn't going to happen.

[Falaras]

heard from a myspace forum that upgraded artifact hands give 7 shots instead of 5?

It's 6 shots but most people think they are worthless since you lose so much from kotes