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  1. #221
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    Maybe someone else can clear this one up for me...

    At level 38, BLUs get Jet Stream. This combines with the level 12 ability Feather Storm to give the Rapid Shot trait. For those that don't know what it does, it "Occasionally quickens ranged attacks." Now I bring this up because, other than the level 73 Rune Bow, and a handful of "throw them and your a moron" throwing items, BLUs get no ranged weapons, nor do they even have a ranged weapon skill. Now, if this was a level 37 or below ability, I could see it being used for something odd like COR/BLU or RNG/BLU, but at 38, it's for BLUs only, so I ask... WTF?

  2. #222
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    I think they just have some combination to get every trait in the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    I think they just have some combination to get every trait in the game.
    ...god BLU could be so damn overpowered

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    I think they just have some combination to get every trait in the game.
    ...god BLU could be so damn overpowered
    The Tier II traits seem to be combinations of 4 spells, so anything especially powerful (Dual Wield, Fast Cast, Auto-Refresh, etc) probably takes loads of crap spells.

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    Blue Magic Skill does not affect how much Pollen heals.
    I'm pretty sure this is incorrect. Pollen was the first spell I learned and I learned it at BLU7. I used it to level my Blue Magic Skill to cap. After first learning, Pollen would heal 22. After I capped my skill, I'd now heal for 28 even though my level and gear had not changed.

    I duo'd the whole time with my friend who's skill was not capped, and she was still doing 22.

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    The only time I've ever noticed an increase in effectiveness of Pollen was when I got +MND gear or equipped an spell that gave +MND. I'll test it out some more and remove my gear and spells that give +MND, equip a subjob that doesn't give as much MND and go level up my BLU skill, and keep track of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larkwynn
    Blue Magic Skill does not affect how much Pollen heals.
    I'm pretty sure this is incorrect. Pollen was the first spell I learned and I learned it at BLU7. I used it to level my Blue Magic Skill to cap. After first learning, Pollen would heal 22. After I capped my skill, I'd now heal for 28 even though my level and gear had not changed.

    I duo'd the whole time with my friend who's skill was not capped, and she was still doing 22.

    I can attest to blue magic skill not affecting pollen linearly. I gained 5 levels of blue magic skill while farming for cocoon at level 6ish and my pollen did not increase at all.

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    Ja Mamoll Mimer pulled....

    A) Crippled BRD with bad breath

    B) RDM rushed to help him.... got a 1000 needle in his face as only person and instantly died

    C) The wyvern we were currently fighting used para AOE



    Anyone want to guess the outcome?

  10. #230
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    Another factor to consider:

    With WAR SJ low level killing mandoraga's.

    At the time my max pollen was 24. After being hit with Wild Oats (I think) and getting the vitality reduction, my max was reduced to 21. After the effect wore off it was back to 24.

    Not sure how vitality plays a role, but it seems to.

    I also am trying to figure out if in some of the spell descriptions if the stat bonus that are give are in some way related to stats used to increase the potency or accuracy of the spell.

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    A targets vit influences a cure spell also. It happened to my cure 1 also when I got hit by oats

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    Chakra is based on VIT.

    Is it that suprising to think that a spell that can only heal the caster, much like Chakra does, can be based on VIT and MND ?

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    Finding:

    BLU 1000 needles didnt destroy my Utsusemi

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    Burst Affinity is bugged, or I'm doing it wrong. Sometimes my magic MBs, sometimes it doesn't. Can anyone explain why it wouldn't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razz
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    Burst Affinity is bugged, or I'm doing it wrong. Sometimes my magic MBs, sometimes it doesn't. Can anyone explain why it wouldn't?
    You're late, or you're early. At least that's what I've been telling myself, because I've had the same problem. I kinda doubt that it's bugged, it just doesn't seem like something that can be coded the exact same was a a normal magic burst would be bugged.

    The latest thing I've been thinking of; the window for bursting blue magic is just shorter than for bursting black or white magic.

    Or it's just bugged. Or I suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurp
    Quote Originally Posted by Razz
    Finding:

    Burst Affinity is bugged, or I'm doing it wrong. Sometimes my magic MBs, sometimes it doesn't. Can anyone explain why it wouldn't?
    You're late, or you're early. At least that's what I've been telling myself, because I've had the same problem. I kinda doubt that it's bugged, it just doesn't seem like something that can be coded the exact same was a a normal magic burst would be bugged.

    The latest thing I've been thinking of; the window for bursting blue magic is just shorter than for bursting black or white magic.

    Or it's just bugged. Or I suck.
    It was the same way when SMN could MB at first, the window was like 1 second. But it got fixed so it's more like a BLM mb, so maybe they'll fix it. But if you have SMN MBing then you have bigger problems then that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kuno
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurp
    Quote Originally Posted by Razz
    Finding:

    Burst Affinity is bugged, or I'm doing it wrong. Sometimes my magic MBs, sometimes it doesn't. Can anyone explain why it wouldn't?
    You're late, or you're early. At least that's what I've been telling myself, because I've had the same problem. I kinda doubt that it's bugged, it just doesn't seem like something that can be coded the exact same was a a normal magic burst would be bugged.

    The latest thing I've been thinking of; the window for bursting blue magic is just shorter than for bursting black or white magic.

    Or it's just bugged. Or I suck.
    It was the same way when SMN could MB at first, the window was like 1 second. But it got fixed so it's more like a BLM mb, so maybe they'll fix it. But if you have SMN MBing then you have bigger problems then that.
    Sorry about the multiple quotes.

    Same here. I've timed the Macro for Ice Break right when the WAR uses Rampage, and sometimes I get MB sometimes I don't. It's really really picky. It pisses me off because it makes me look noobish.

    Also: I really would like you guys to fill in the data on Chain Affinity for Physical abilities on the skillchain chart. It really would help out because BLU (in my opinion) is most effective in a PT setting up skillchains left and right. Once with your TP, once with Chain Affinity etc. occasionally calling the other two melees to go together with each other etc. I'm sick of doing X > Jet Stream (Fusion) and X > Claw Cyclone (Distortion).

    Please fill in data here:

    http://www.theorderls.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9282

  18. #238
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    Being that im still trying to figure out how Wyrm Mail works exactly. I have found what I believe to be a bug when you sub Blue mage and the Armor. When I set Auto Regen as only job trait for Blue Mage...based on my understanding of Wyrm Mail it should be the trait the Wyvern picks up. But it doesnt seem to work atm

  19. #239
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kuno
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurp
    Quote Originally Posted by Razz
    Finding:

    Burst Affinity is bugged, or I'm doing it wrong. Sometimes my magic MBs, sometimes it doesn't. Can anyone explain why it wouldn't?
    You're late, or you're early. At least that's what I've been telling myself, because I've had the same problem. I kinda doubt that it's bugged, it just doesn't seem like something that can be coded the exact same was a a normal magic burst would be bugged.

    The latest thing I've been thinking of; the window for bursting blue magic is just shorter than for bursting black or white magic.

    Or it's just bugged. Or I suck.
    It was the same way when SMN could MB at first, the window was like 1 second. But it got fixed so it's more like a BLM mb, so maybe they'll fix it. But if you have SMN MBing then you have bigger problems then that.
    Oh, I forgot about that. I'm hoping it's just an oversight, like it was with summoners. It is definitely messed up though. I just leveled BLM 40-47 in the week prior to the expansion and had my MB timing down pat, so missing MBs on BLU probably isn't because I suck.

  20. #240
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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Chakra is based on VIT.

    Is it that suprising to think that a spell that can only heal the caster, much like Chakra does, can be based on VIT and MND ?

    You know what fuckface? It is. Now how about you contribute something instead of being a smug asshole.

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