Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Priran]

Grim Halo is the ruiner of worlds, which means if BLU got it, it would suck.

[Koyangi]

I couldn't find this info anywhere, but does skills that aren't h2h raise the base dmg like h2h's skill forumla does? I want to know from 269 (base skill) what each increment is that I'm reaching a new base dmg increases if there are any. Thanks. I hope the question makes sense.

[Priran]

no, only H2H works like that.

[Koyangi]

Thanks, I had that inkling too, was just unsure.

[fantasticdan]

no, only H2H works like that.

Actually, that's how physical blue magic works. The "base damage" used when calculating damage is based on blue magic skill.

[FinalJustice]

Yea, I thought SE said Blu skill also determines Physical blu dmg.

[Celeras]

It does, thats not what he was asking.

[nekoshoonen]

Can anybody find me a good piece of headgear to use with cannonball?

i use dusk mask

31 def
5 vit
5 acc
no str

but i still end up with, depending on spells set

str: +50ish
vit: +30ish
def: 710ish

Cannonball set up :

Head : Dusk
Body : AF (Would like to try Vishnu to compare it although none can ever be found but i think AF would still win)
Hands : mithra rse2/pallas (depends on my mood XD)
legs : AF
Feet :Rutters
neck: Fortitude
Belt: Warwolf


Yup i use dusk Mask too.

[FinalJustice]

It does, thats not what he was asking.

Then I guess im confused about what was being asked. :-\\ I thought he was asking if blu skill raised the base dmg, similiar to H2H. My fault.

[andretti]

Can i see some cannonball gear? :D Always wanted to see how people set it up. I mean i know its def and stuff.. just want to see someone's gear

i wear this for cannonball set:

main: wing sword+1
offhand/sub: genbu's shield
ammo: bibiki seashell
head: dusk mask
neck: chivalrous chain
ear1: triumph+1
ear2: brutal
body: af
hands: alky's
ring1&2: triumph
back: commanders cape
waist: warwolf belt
legs: blood cuises or jet seraweels
feet: homam

need a better ear2 and legs and feet for sure **for cannonball**... but this build (plus spells depending on mob and jobs at fight, and tacos and cocoon dont forget) gives me:

+52 STR
+31 VIT
754 DEF

[Demitrius]

Cannonball setup, as requested:

main: Ifrit's Blade
offhand/sub: Genbu's Shield
ammo: JM Chakram +2
head: Homam
neck: chivalrous chain
ear1: Minuet
ear2: Loquacious
body: AF
hands: Pallas
rings: Flame/Rajas
back: Amemet +1
waist: warwolf belt
legs: Crimson
feet: Hume RSE2

after equipping spells, this puts me at about +60 STR, +35 VIT, and about 680 DEF (including Cocoon). Possible future upgrades include Galliard Trousers and a Triumph for ear2.

[nekoshoonen]

Ok I'll do a /full/ list

Main : ifrit
Sub : genbu
Back : Commander's cape
Ears : nothing that makes a difference
Rings : STR rings
Throwing : Chakram +1 (or if not working Bibiki Bay Shell)

rest stays the same.

[Umbra]

It would be nerfed to half effect the same as Terror Touch and Frightful Roar are.

Just out of curiosity, how was this tested? I tend to believe the F. roar one based on my own testing, but this is the first I've heard that terror touch is gimped significantly also.

[Terrance]

Just out of curiosity, how was this tested? I tend to believe the F. roar one based on my own testing, but this is the first I've heard that terror touch is gimped significantly also.

Ballista

[FinalJustice]

doesnt certain things changr for ballista though?
Like i know that Self destruct for example, is different in ballista in that the max dmg is shared with everyone in range, and in non balista it is not shared dmg.

[Zeosilot]

Self Destruct is AoE when you use it on mobs outside of ballista, it's just a small AoE range. Read the description on the spell. "Sacrifice HP to deal damage to enemies within range"



As for my Cannonball Gear

Main: Vulcan's Staff or Wing Sword (working on Wing Sword +1)
Sub: Genbu's Shield
Ammo: Bibiki Seashell
Head: Crimson Mask
Neck: Chiv. Chain (Fortitude torque sooner or later)
Ear1: Triumph Earring
Ear2: Minuet Earring (working towards another Triumph or Waetoto's (Taru RSE+2 Str, +1 Vit)
Body: AF
Hands: Taru RSE
Ring1: Flame Ring
Ring2: Flame Ring
Back: Commander's Cape
Waist: Warwolf Belt
Legs: AF (could use Crimson but I'm sure AF is better for my set up)
Feet: Taru RSE

[FinalJustice]

Yes.. i know its AoE.... but in Ballista the total Dmg is Shared evenly among all enemies in range. Similar to the way 1k needles dmg is shared when a Cactaur uses it on your party. Because before you could do max dmg to every person in ballista and own them all, then SE nerfed it in Balista to spread the dmg out.

[iCelerity]

As for my Cannonball Gear

Main: Vulcan's Staff or Wing Sword (working on Wing Sword +1)

Using a staff for BLU physical spells?

[Umbra]

Just out of curiosity, how was this tested? I tend to believe the F. roar one based on my own testing, but this is the first I've heard that terror touch is gimped significantly also.

Ballista

Not reliable.

[Alathar]

As for my Cannonball Gear

Main: Vulcan's Staff or Wing Sword (working on Wing Sword +1)

Using a staff for BLU physical spells?

it's usually SAed ... accuracy is then not a problem.