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  1. #2501
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    Quote Originally Posted by iCelerity
    As for my Cannonball Gear

    Main: Vulcan's Staff or Wing Sword (working on Wing Sword +1)
    Using a staff for BLU physical spells?
    Yup, like the previous poster stated, the spell is usually SA'd.

    Tiamat, Kirin, Behemoth, King Behemoth, Cerberus, Khimira(sp?), etc.

    ....always sub thief. Generally you wouldn't be building tp off of most of these NM's so +5 Str > +3 Str.

    Live and learn...

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    Kirin, Behemoth, King Behemoth, Cerberus, Khimira
    Curious.... why wouldnt one be building TP off of these guys? Though ive never fought or seen anyone fighting Khimera yet...

  3. #2503
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    Only KB & Khimeira on that list really shouldn't be TPing on. Khim uses Nasty AoEs & Resets TP, and KB is just KB, you don't want to be close to it if you can help it.

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    KB is a pussy ;o
    When i fight or see LS\' fight it, all the melee chase it and build TP, and unleash SCs when it stops to cast meteor, but they dont get hit with it, because the kiting tank runs out of range anyway.

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    I've never fought KB T_T

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    Yea, only thing remotely hard about KB is being hit by Meteor. But your tanks should be kiting anyway, and run out of range, therefore it never goes off. I personally have never been hit by meteor. Unless it was in that KS99 fight where you have a much smaller space to work with.

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    Last time I fought KB ToAU wasn't out

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    Hehe, I guess my post was hasty and not well thought out. I was in a rush when I made it.

    The NM's you wouldn't want to Tp on would be.... Cerberus (Gates of Hades), Khimira (Fulmination), King Behemoth (...mainly because for me he's annoying to chase), and Tiamat (I dunno.... my LS doesn't have more than 1 melee on him at any one time, lol. I just assume there's a reason).

    Behemoth, Kirin, and.... probably the majority of most NM's/HNM's are safe to tp on.

    So... for certain situations Vulcan's Staff would be the weapon of choice in my opinion, if you need/want tp... you couldalways have a samurai siphon some over to you with that level 2 meritable ability ^.^

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    LOL everyone TPs on Ceberus
    The melee pound away at him

    Gates isnt so bad when you have the stun, and Blms suck on him anyway if i remember, so melee are the ones doing most of the dmg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeosilot
    So... for certain situations Vulcan's Staff would be the weapon of choice in my opinion, if you need/want tp... you couldalways have a samurai siphon some over to you with that level 2 meritable ability ^.^
    What? BLU has 0 staff skill, what crack are you smoking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonko
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeosilot
    So... for certain situations Vulcan's Staff would be the weapon of choice in my opinion, if you need/want tp... you couldalways have a samurai siphon some over to you with that level 2 meritable ability ^.^
    What? BLU has 0 staff skill, what crack are you smoking?
    SA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koyangi
    Quote Originally Posted by Tonko
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeosilot
    So... for certain situations Vulcan's Staff would be the weapon of choice in my opinion, if you need/want tp... you couldalways have a samurai siphon some over to you with that level 2 meritable ability ^.^
    What? BLU has 0 staff skill, what crack are you smoking?
    SA?
    Wow I could've sworn this conversation just took place 5 replies ago! Still dont think Vulcan Staff is worth using though. I'd rather have +3 str and shield as opposed to +5 str. Genbus shield will equate to like 50-60 defense by the time youre done buffing, quite a boost.

    And finaljustice, we have shells on my server that kill not just cerberus.. but EVERYTHING with only smn/chi damage. If it doesnt have a rage timer, theyre fighting it for 2-3 hours. Awesome huh?

  13. #2513
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    Sorry, I loaded the thread right after waking up from a nap and didn't read everything.

    And yeah, like Celeras pointed out, 2 STR isn't worth loosing all that Defence from Genbu's.

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    And finaljustice, we have shells on my server that kill not just cerberus.. but EVERYTHING with only smn/chi damage. If it doesnt have a rage timer, theyre fighting it for 2-3 hours. Awesome huh?
    Eeww gross

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    For those of you with pimped out mnd/MaB setups, how is the accuracy of mind blast and magic hammer outside of MB on endgame mobs? Mostly wondering if AF body is necessary, or if it's worth it to get a yigit body.

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    Wouldn't it be better to use Errant instead of Yigit body for magic hammer at least since it is kind of a low dmg spell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fantasticdan
    For those of you with pimped out mnd/MaB setups, how is the accuracy of mind blast and magic hammer outside of MB on endgame mobs? Mostly wondering if AF body is necessary, or if it's worth it to get a yigit body.
    Rarely resist on Fafnir using AF body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeras

    Still dont think Vulcan Staff is worth using though. I'd rather have +3 str and shield as opposed to +5 str. Genbus shield will equate to like 50-60 defense by the time youre done buffing, quite a boost.
    Question about this. I haven't done any tests myself, but I have read previously that the defense modifier for Cannonball has a sharp dropoff in effect after you reach about 400 defense, and that beyond that you need to work on VIT and STR mods.

    If this is in fact true, I was wondering if Rune Baghnaks might be an alternate idea. They are BLU equippable and have a latent of +7 STR activated through the draining of 4 mp/tick and engaging. You could macro them in, shoot Cannonball and macro them out for a minimal loss of mp. I haven't tried this, but I was looking at the item on AH the other day and I thought this might possibly be useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vhess
    Quote Originally Posted by Celeras

    Still dont think Vulcan Staff is worth using though. I'd rather have +3 str and shield as opposed to +5 str. Genbus shield will equate to like 50-60 defense by the time youre done buffing, quite a boost.
    Question about this. I haven't done any tests myself, but I have read previously that the defense modifier for Cannonball has a sharp dropoff in effect after you reach about 400 defense, and that beyond that you need to work on VIT and STR mods.

    If this is in fact true, I was wondering if Rune Baghnaks might be an alternate idea. They are BLU equippable and have a latent of +7 STR activated through the draining of 4 mp/tick and engaging. You could macro them in, shoot Cannonball and macro them out for a minimal loss of mp. I haven't tried this, but I was looking at the item on AH the other day and I thought this might possibly be useful.
    It depends what youre fighting. Defense for Cannonball is the equivilant of attack for melee strikes. Youll see diminishing returns very early on weaker opponents, but once you start getting into endgame you're going to need buffs to keep up.

    So no you wouldnt want to use Rune Baghnaks, because youre going to want a shield for that extra defense.

    And before anyone asks about Rune Bangles, no ;p

  20. #2520
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeras
    Quote Originally Posted by fantasticdan
    For those of you with pimped out mnd/MaB setups, how is the accuracy of mind blast and magic hammer outside of MB on endgame mobs? Mostly wondering if AF body is necessary, or if it's worth it to get a yigit body.
    Rarely resist on Fafnir using AF body.
    how much mind vrs mab do you have at, say, a fafnir when you go as blu for mind blast damage?

    i think i recall seeing mind blasts for 1kish damage, and perhaps in this mamoth thread somewhere... but to keep my sanity, could you enlighten me prs.

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