Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[LD]

That has to mean that job level or BLU skill has something to do with it.

[Tonko]

BLU skill factors in as well.

[Sho]

Definately.

[Zeosilot]

Definately.

[Zeosilot]

Made this post on K.I. a few days ago, figured I'd put it up here too for the hell of it.

Whereas I feel my damage for a blu with far from perfect nuking gear is pretty damn good, a black mage of equal gear will still outperform a blue mage with equal gear in pretty much all situations when it comes to nuking. Anyways, here are the results from my test.


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So I just finished manaburning in Mount Zhaylom on Ebony Puddings.... on firesday.... with my Karin Obi.

I'd just like to say, Firespit > all. I was soloing just to test damage so keep in mind if I was in a full blm party I could have set spells to do even more damage and I wasn't using food.

But..... in any case, my max damage with Firespit was *drum roll please*

***1,481***

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I'd like to add, I was also using no food. With Goblin Mushpot I prolly would broken 1,500. No clue how high AL would take me but I didn't use that yet either

The Jp Blm's that were manaburning there.... were nuking for 1000 to low 1,200's with Thunder 4 (I think they were gimp).

With no buffs or ugg pendant my Firespit with obi only hit for a mere 840. Hmm, I'll just lay out the #'s so it's easy to read.

840 - Obi
880 - Obi - Ugg. Pendant
957 - Obi - Ugg. Pendant - Enervation
963 - Memento Mori - Obi
1235 - Memento Mori - Obi - Burst Affinity
1340 - Memento Mori - Obi - Convergence - Ugg. Pendant - Burst Affinity
1415 - Memento Mori - Obi - Convergence - Enervation - Sound Blast - Burst Affinity
1481 - Memento More - Obi - Convergence - Ugg. Pendant - Enervation - Sound Blast - Burst Affinity

The rest of my gear was always the same as follows:
Vulcan's Staff
Phantom Tathlum
Yigit Turban
Ugg Pendant (have promise badge but just didn't use it to keep results based on one gear set)
Cmn. Earring
Moldavite Earring
Errant Body (tried Yigit Body but double mods on errant > yigit... which i would have realized if I thought about it)
Aqua
Aqua
Prism
Anrin Obi
Mahatma Slops
Yigit Crackows

I don't really think I could improve on my gear apart from getting a mahatma body or novio earring.... actually I lie. Morrigan's of course. I believe that would be the only thing though, correct me if I'm wrong

Anyways... 1,481 Firespit for 121 Mp. Gear up your Blu's and go have some fun.

[Takiwaki]

very nice stuff but. isnt anrin obi for darksday and weather? but impressive none the less

thanks for the info.

what was your +Int and Mind if you dont mind me asking?

[Nirokun!]

karin obi is put in the top of the post

[Zeosilot]

Yup, Karin Obi = fire one.

Anrin Obi is dark, it just has a similar sounding name?

[klvino]

The rest of my gear was always the same as follows:
Vulcan's Staff
Phantom Tathlum
Yigit Turban
Ugg Pendant (have promise badge but just didn't use it to keep results based on one gear set)
Cmn. Earring
Moldavite Earring
Errant Body (tried Yigit Body but double mods on errant > yigit... which i would have realized if I thought about it)
Aqua
Aqua
Prism
Anrin Obi
Mahatma Slops
Yigit Crackows

I don't really think I could improve on my gear apart from getting a mahatma body or novio earring.... actually I lie. Morrigan's of course. I believe that would be the only thing though, correct me if I'm wrong

Have you considered investing in Homam Zucchetto for physical spells macro but keep Yigit Turban for magical spells?

EDIT: forgot to mention Denali Kecks and Gamashes for physical spells.

[fantasticdan]

The rest of my gear was always the same as follows:
Vulcan's Staff
Phantom Tathlum
Yigit Turban
Ugg Pendant (have promise badge but just didn't use it to keep results based on one gear set)
Cmn. Earring
Moldavite Earring
Errant Body (tried Yigit Body but double mods on errant > yigit... which i would have realized if I thought about it)
Aqua
Aqua
Prism
Anrin Obi
Mahatma Slops
Yigit Crackows

I don't really think I could improve on my gear apart from getting a mahatma body or novio earring.... actually I lie. Morrigan's of course. I believe that would be the only thing though, correct me if I'm wrong

The base stat used to calculate firespit is INT, yes it has both mnd and int as secondary modifiers, but you are going to get better results, and should see less resists using INT over MND, in a slot where you can only get one or the other. There's a reason rngs slugwinder in STR gear and not AGI.

Anyways... 1,481 Firespit for 121 Mp. Gear up your Blu's and go have some fun.

It's essentially 167 MP if you're using memento mori.

Have you considered investing in Homam Zucchetto for physical spells macro but keep Yigit Turban for magical spells?

Why in gods hell would you cast physical spells in homam head?

[Zeosilot]

The rest of my gear was always the same as follows:
Vulcan's Staff
Phantom Tathlum
Yigit Turban
Ugg Pendant (have promise badge but just didn't use it to keep results based on one gear set)
Cmn. Earring
Moldavite Earring
Errant Body (tried Yigit Body but double mods on errant > yigit... which i would have realized if I thought about it)
Aqua
Aqua
Prism
Anrin Obi
Mahatma Slops
Yigit Crackows

I don't really think I could improve on my gear apart from getting a mahatma body or novio earring.... actually I lie. Morrigan's of course. I believe that would be the only thing though, correct me if I'm wrong

Have you considered investing in Homam Zucchetto for physical spells macro but keep Yigit Turban for magical spells?

EDIT: forgot to mention Denali Kecks and Gamashes for physical spells.

Uh, I have a homam Zucchetto but... I wasn't using any physical spells at all during this test >.> So why mention it?

It's essentially 167 MP if you're using memento mori.

This is true.

[Takiwaki]

nice stuff.

got an anrin obi to test eyes on me.

with about +40 chr moldi and yigit hat. anrin obi with double dark weather in limbus
memento mori convergence and BA was able to do 1055 Dmg.

very steady 800-900 dmg without convergence.

and whats wrong with casting phys spells in homam head?

[fantasticdan]

Why would you cast spells in something with 4acc, when you could just as easily cast in 10acc from optical hat? That's like using a courage ring for SATA instead of a flame ring.

[Takiwaki]

Why would you cast spells in something with 4acc, when you could just as easily cast in 10acc from optical hat? That's like using a courage ring for SATA instead of a flame ring.

very true, but I have opti and never found it neccessary to use. The extra acc is nice but usually when using sushi and also homam body, I really never seen the need to do the extra swap for spells, but it is an option. The fact is that you sounded like something was wrong with using homam head when there is not. I have already 6 slots of macro for equip just for blu swaps. totally filled, i dont need more atm. also casting with the extra little haste helps with recast on spells. if your main hand acc is sufficient then your spells should land np. If i had a choice i would chose voyager over opti also. unless im soloing that i really need alot of evasion (not imps). Opti hat is an option for tp build imo but for spell casting I really never had the need.

Also comparing something like Str which modifies our dmg to something like acc really does not work, I will cast with 4 acc as opposed to your 10 acc and land every hit for same or more dmg. finding the proper balance for your build is what is neccessary. Homan is a great peice of gear as well as Optihat. our Phys spells are akin to normal melee ws. and any melee would tell you if they had an option to use something other than optihat that will enhance thier ws they will. casting with a flame ring as opposed to courage ring and casting with less acc as opposed to more are two completely different things sorry.

[VZX]

After the old WAR's rampage and BLU's vorpal topic and Nagamaki's DEX/crit research

Have anyone tried something for crit build Vorpal? Does it work well?

[fantasticdan]

and any melee would tell you if they had an option to use something other than optihat that will enhance thier ws they will.

Yeah, I'm sure all other melees would just be jumping for a FOUR ACCURACY alternative to a piece of gear with ten accuracy, with no additional benefits. You sound like one of those wars that rampages in w. turbn.

After the old WAR's rampage and BLU's vorpal topic and Nagamaki's DEX/crit research

Have anyone tried something for crit build Vorpal? Does it work well?

I don't think blu has near enough dex to try, you're behind 25 dex just from losing access to haidate and adaberk/osode, and blu can't wear hecatomb.

[LD]

Has anyone brought up the fact that the fact he was working on Flans skewed the numbers by ~+25%?
I mean, that is an impressive number even on flans, but I thought that should be made clear.

[Takiwaki]

and any melee would tell you if they had an option to use something other than optihat that will enhance thier ws they will.

Yeah, I'm sure all other melees would just be jumping for a FOUR ACCURACY alternative to a piece of gear with ten accuracy, with no additional benefits. You sound like one of those wars that rampages in w. turbn.

you obviously dont pay attention to what others post before you retailate. firstly other melees have other choices other than homam... and other benifits include for blu not other melee.. haste magic acc mp and acc. . secondly if you look at my sig i have MNK and SAM level to 75 way before i played blu and . I have not used opitcal hat on any of them after 73 where they can use shura. now I dont know what your issue is with somone saying that there are other alternatives. I am not trying to put you down but your comment was straight up closed minded. You even quoted me ..read it again.. what does my statement you quoted,have anything to do with four accuracy over 10 for other melee? for war of course you would use optihat over heca anyday right? im sorry if im missing something if im not understanding you correctly. its just you sound like every melee in the game should ws with optihat? im sorry i cannot see y you were so arrogant about blus casting in homam. i really dont see that 6 extra acc really doing anything unless you are a meat eating blu? gg.

[Tonko]

There is no reason, ever, to cast a physical spell, in Homam head.

The ONLY concession MIGHT be for Headbutt lower recast with still getting some accuracy out of it.

But otherwise, gtfo.

[Takiwaki]

There is no reason, ever, to cast a physical spell, in Homam head.

The ONLY concession MIGHT be for Headbutt lower recast with still getting some accuracy out of it.

But otherwise, gtfo.

lol

wow i really though BG would not be full of dickheads . seems i was wrong. its a good thing people dont play this game according to your rules

its just how crappy and disrespectful you come off for no reason when I am trying to just give an option. im sorry if offended you creator of FFXI..

i have read alot of your posts and research its just a shame you have to come off like an immature little prick again for no reason.