Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[huckster]

Slug- Same as above, looks like a conal status effect but also in the end covers you in the slime.

I love how people don't know how Altana Viewer works...

What Kaslo meant was .... Altana View shows starting animation and finishing animation on the same model - so you see a BLU shooting some stuff and THEN the effect on the same model. (this also applies to buffs - so you can't tell which effect applies to the caster or target). In normal condition the effect would apply to a monster.

Animations basically "schedule" of animations:
main - that's what you see on the videos - caster starts casting (part1) and then you see the effect (on the same model, part2)
cst0/1 - part1 of the animation - what the caster looks like when casting
tgt0/1 - part 2 - this is the animation on the target

Self-buffs like Refuelling, Cocoon, Metallic Body, Warm-Up have additional "schedule":
sub0 - shows the effect of the spell/ability on the caster

But other "buffing" spells like Diamondhide, Feather Barrier etc although they're self-buffing have only cst0/main/tgt0 schedules too.

None of the new animation have the "sub0" component on them, but they do have cst0/main/tgt0 schedules- so it's hard to tell whether any of them is a self-buffing one (ladybug animation seems like one though).

If you want to play Sherlock Holmes:
Gnat Attack - fly_dsn0 (main/se10/tg1)
Slugg Attack - slg_acd0 (cst1/main/tgt1)
Gnole Attack - wlf_mus0 (cst1/main/tgt1)
Rafflesia Attack - raf_tan0 (cas1/main/tgt0)
Ladybug Attack - ldy_sls0 (cas0/cse0/main/tgt0/tse0)

Sooo.....that's what Kaslo meant right, right? Because he wasn't trying to be sarcastic, right? He was just trying to help, rrrrright?

[Nirokun!]

Same thing with the single hit looking bite spell, we have 3 SATA spells to use at 75; death scissors, cannonball, and vertical cleave. That's two slashing and one blunt, no piercing, infact we don't have a single hit piercing attack that stacks with SATA at any level. Add to this eclipse BITE looks pretty similar and is piercing.. yeah.

EBite is slashing

the only piercing BPs are poison nails, crescent fang, and claw to my knowledge

[Sho]

This is why I wish the dev for Altana View completed that target model he was supposedly working on before he canceled his project. It woulda solved so many targeting spell theories and speculation for all these new spells and attacks.

[LinktheDeme]

Slug slime attack certainly looks like some kinda debuff. We already have plenty of defense down, slow, but no attack down, which is something I think most of us thought we would get from wivre. Could be a new type of debuff or a combination, like magic attack down + attack down in one or multi-base stat down. Other debuffs like para, blind, etc don't really fit the animation.

Knowing SE logic doesn't always(usually) apply, but that is what I would speculate based on the animation and what we already have.

Terror Touch is attack down

[Nirokun!]

Slug slime attack certainly looks like some kinda debuff. We already have plenty of defense down, slow, but no attack down, which is something I think most of us thought we would get from wivre. Could be a new type of debuff or a combination, like magic attack down + attack down in one or multi-base stat down. Other debuffs like para, blind, etc don't really fit the animation.

here's to hoping its a good slow/para/blind combo attack >_> i mean bad breath, but that costs so much and takes so long to cast ;D give me a low mp, quick casting, WRECKING debuff slam ;3

[LD]

I'd prefer they lowered Bad Breath's MP cost, personally. ;x

Should try to make things usable, not replace things that are unusable. If you do the latter, you're just wasting space.

[eva00r]

spells that we need for blus are ... long duration buff, its ok to be a weak buff, at least to get some better use of diffusion. e.g. attack up by 5% for 10 mins

[Alistaire]

On a mostly-windower but still specific to BLU note, has anyone mentioned to windower developers that the recast counters for Convergence and Diffusion both come up as "Unknown-Ability"? Normally not too confusing, but I'm sure it'd be easy to fix.

(Oh, and wtf is that (NULL) timer that comes up when you're raised??)

[nekura]

On a mostly-windower but still specific to BLU note, has anyone mentioned to windower developers that the recast counters for Convergence and Diffusion both come up as "Unknown-Ability"? Normally not too confusing, but I'm sure it'd be easy to fix.

(Oh, and wtf is that (NULL) timer that comes up when you're raised??)

Here you go: http://windower.nfshost.com/forums/view ... 479#144479

Also, I don't think it was ever discovered for sure what the (NULL) timer is, but I remember someone saying they couldn't cast spells while it was up.

[fantasticdan]

Why is it unlikely? Pots use a TP move to give themselves back MP (Battery Charge). Is it useful to the mob? No, not really, but they still do it...

Pots actually cast magic, so them having battery charge makes sense.

Terror touch attack down is an additional effect on a physical spell that doesn't even proc 100%, I don't think that's really in the same league as a consistant magic debuff akin to frightful roar.

Crescent fang was the BP I was thinking of with fenrir thou, my bad.

[Kaslo]

Slug- Same as above, looks like a conal status effect but also in the end covers you in the slime.

I love how people don't know how Altana Viewer works...

Care to explain? I'm guessing I missed something and maybe only the first part of the animation would be the spell or the final part is supposed to show up on the enemy.

Look you figured it out in like 2 seconds of thinking... that's why it upsets me when ppl talk without thinking about it. And my statement was "mean" I guess because I hear it every day for ppl who watch the things. For the record I have not used Altana Viewer ever but am still able to logicly realize what is going on. Sorry if it offended you.

[Delekii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKE_r58yX_M

the new effect spell is a debuff not a buff. Definately not hastega.

[Judai]

Slug- Same as above, looks like a conal status effect but also in the end covers you in the slime.

I love how people don't know how Altana Viewer works...

Care to explain? I'm guessing I missed something and maybe only the first part of the animation would be the spell or the final part is supposed to show up on the enemy.

Look you figured it out in like 2 seconds of thinking... that's why it upsets me when ppl talk without thinking about it. And my statement was "mean" I guess because I hear it every day for ppl who watch the things. For the record I have not used Altana Viewer ever but am still able to logicly realize what is going on. Sorry if it offended you.

Yes, you being a blatent asshole instead of explaining the simple thing I missed about something I have no knowledge about offends me. It's ok though, not like anyone had any real clue about the spells and the one thing I said was pretty ridiculous looks to be in fact really wrong and isn't even a self-buff but an attack and possible debuff. I guess you guys who actually know how the program works don't even have a clue about it, eh? Maybe, just maybe, you should think before speaking yourself from now on.

[Tonko]

Take it to PM children. Anymore discussion of this issue in this topic will see both of you disappearing for a few days.

[Takiwaki]

new spells not going to be active till 2008 update ; ;

[Tonko]

Says who?

[Judai]

One of the ppl who posted job adjustments posted that new spells and cor rolls would not be available until 08. I forget who but I do recall reading it as I was very disappointed~ Maybe they will give us a few now and more later though~ I hope~

Need to at least give the 3 jobs that have been out for a year AF2 and AF+1 or some JSE or something special~


edit: this thread. viewtopic.php?f=53&t=26084&start=0

I would assume it was mentioned by SE people.

[LD]

I don't see that as being true, since the spell animations are already in the dats, complete with BLU casting stance. Granted, so are about a dozen other moves, but they have no reason to hold out on us.

[Judai]

I don't see it being too far fetched with the way they have treated the new jobs on AF, Merits, AF+1 and AF2.

"Oh yea, we have something special planned for those items in the future, (in 2009, hahaha)"

Like I said though, maybe they plan to give us the few people found and more next year or something, at least I hope. I would definately run around WotG exploring on BLU just to find the new Spells, I think it would be alot of fun to have a personal quest in the new expansion along with the general exploration fun of it.

[Jeebz]

there used to be a nice picture/chart of best cannonball gear and spells setup

what happened to it?does anyone still have it? please let me know ive gone through so many pages of this thread but seems like its gone (also went through KI forums as it was there too...not to be found!)