Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Arkanna]

there used to be a nice picture/chart of best cannonball gear and spells setup

what happened to it?does anyone still have it? please let me know ive gone through so many pages of this thread but seems like its gone (also went through KI forums as it was there too...not to be found!)

My Cannonball gear:

Main hand: Ifrit's Blade (or Vulcan's Staff, situationally)
Off hand: Acheron Shield (or Mythril Grip +1, situationally)
Ranged: JM Chakram +1 (situationally)
Ammo: Bibiki Seashell (situationally)
Head: Wivre Mask
Neck: Chivalrous Chain
Earring 1: Minuet Earring
Earring 2: Triumph Earring
Body: Magus Jubbah
Hands: Creek F Mitts
Ring 1: Flame Ring
Ring 2: Flame Ring
Back: Amemet Mantle +1
Waist: Warwolf Belt
Legs: Magus Shalwar
Feet: Creek F Clomps

Obvious upgrades would be:

Main hand to Wing Sword +1 (marginal gain for the price)
Head to Wivre Mask +1 (Marginal gain for the price)
Earring 1 to Triumph Earring (marginal gain for the price)
Hands to Alky's (probably the best upgrade I could do, price vs. performance wise)
Back: Smilodon Mantle +1 (haven't really explored much of the new gear yet)
Legs: Galliard Trousers (Kurrea) or Morrigan's Slops (Salvage)

Add in Cocoon, Tavnazian Tacos, and usually Minnes but occasionally Etudes for low-def mobs, and you have a solid Cannonball set.

[Jeebz]

im really looking for a good spell set to go along with cannonball

my current cannonball gear is:

Main hand: Wing Sword+1 (or Vulcan's Staff, situationally)
Off hand: Genbu Shield (or Axe Grip, situationally)
Ranged: JM Chakram +1 (situationally)
Ammo: Bibiki Seashell (situationally)
Head: Wivre Mask+1
Neck: Fortitude Torque
Earring 1: Waetoto's Earring
Earring 2: Minuet Earring (saving for triumph)
Body: Magus Jubbah
Hands: Alkyoneus Bracelet's
Ring 1: Rajas Ring
Ring 2: Flame Ring
Back: Smilodon Mantle +1 (sp?)
Waist: Warwolf Belt
Legs: Magus Shalwar
Feet: Creek M Clomps

edit: kinda copied your table and just edited lol

[Arkanna]

Hmm, it's kind of tough to come up with a very specific spell set, because setting spells specifically for Cannonball'ing would pretty much leave you unable to do much else. I'll give it a shot though.

This spell set is assuming you can switch to sword and TP on the mob. It also assumes you don't care about having any flexibility (ie, no emergency cures, extra damage spells, etc). *EDIT* Actually, I guess it doesn't matter if you could TP on the mob or not, I really don't see what I'd change about this if you were using staff/grip vs. sword/shield.

Cannonball (3 points, +1 STR)
Cocoon (1 point, +3 VIT)
Vertical Cleave and Grand Slam (5 points, Defense Bonus, +1 VIT)
Plasma Charge, Self-Destruct, Frightful Roar (11 points, Auto Refresh, +5 STR)
Uppercut and Spinal Cleave (7 points, Attack Bonus, +2 STR, +2 VIT)
Firespit + Zephyr Mantle (7 points, Conserve MP, +3 STR)
Heat Breath (4 points, +3 STR)
Bomb Toss (3 points, +2 STR)
Blastbomb (2 points, +1 STR)
Pinecone Bomb (2 points, +1 STR)

Total of 45 points, +18 STR, +7 VIT.

[Jeebz]

thats a good start for me to work with. thanks!
i haven't yet used cannonball setup for endgame (really want to finish my merits before i go out there..) so I am just trying to finish testing out spell sets and thats one way to do it

[Judai]

My Main spell set-up for Cannonball is the following;

Cannonball
Bomb Toss
Self-Destruct
Firespit
Heat Breath
Frightful Roar
Coccon
Diamondhide
Plasma Charge
Magic Fruit
Zephyr Mantle

Leaves 10 points to play with depending on your situation. This is when my only real job is to Cannonball, for fights like Cerb,Khim,etc. Obviously Diamondhide and Zephyr Mantle are for a little protection. The rest are the big STR spells and Auto-Refresh/Conserve MP. Usually add in Disservment for the Poison and if I don't really need any other spells I just add in more STR spells like Uppercut.

[Rheya]

there used to be a nice picture/chart of best cannonball gear and spells setup

what happened to it?does anyone still have it? please let me know ive gone through so many pages of this thread but seems like its gone (also went through KI forums as it was there too...not to be found!)

you mean this?

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/1...llbuildie6.jpg

[Jeebz]

yes thank you!

[Nazrious]

ty again rly helped out with making my current build, although for back smilo +1 would prolly be better.

aside from that all i rly had to worry about is where the hell am I goign to put another set of gear. T.T

lol, cant wait for another safe or storage or locker upgrade.

such limited inventory, even with maxed everything, just isnt enough for multiple jobs, specially when i have so many different sets of gear tailored for specific Blu activities.

chr set
Def/str/vit set
Str set
TP set
HMP set
Dex/acc set (work in progress)

and aside form some of the accessories much of the Blu gear I have doesnt mesh well with other jobs.

heres hoping for AF 2/+1

that will have the best of both worlds for all spells or at least a few pieces that will work across the board, LEGS hopefully

SE PLS PLS PLS give use a really awsome set of legs for spells. were fine on body and hands for the most part I'd say.

hmm so perhaps legs or head... I lean more towards a rly nice leg over a really nice head.

[VZX]

BLU definitely one of the jobs that require a lot of gear setup/items, if not the most. I can't seem to fit my mog anymore with the gear for /THF and CHR gear.

[Alvinho]

Wouldn't a Cassie Earring be just as good as (or better than) Triumph/Robust Earring (+1), at least as far as modifiers go? 2 DEF, 1 STR and 1 VIT seems better than 1 DEF 2 STR/1 DEF 2 VIT. You're still getting 2 points of str/vit, and some small amount of DEF in there. I know there's this whole pDIF thing in there which might rule 2 STR more important than 1 STR and 1 VIT, but since I'm a Taru, and lack both of those stats naturally, wouldn't a Cassie Earring be the better option w/ Waetoto's (2 STR, 1 VIT)?

[VZX]

Wouldn't a Cassie Earring be just as good as (or better than) Triumph/Robust Earring (+1), at least as far as modifiers go? 2 DEF, 1 STR and 1 VIT seems better than 1 DEF 2 STR/1 DEF 2 VIT. You're still getting 2 points of str/vit, and some small amount of DEF in there. I know there's this whole pDIF thing in there which might rule 2 STR more important than 1 STR and 1 VIT, but since I'm a Taru, and lack both of those stats naturally, wouldn't a Cassie Earring be the better option w/ Waetoto's (2 STR, 1 VIT)?

Even though the secondary mod of cannonball is 50%STR and 50%VIT, you forgot to add fSTR into the equation (25%, more or less). Hence, point-per-point basis, 1 STR > 1 VIT

[Alistaire]

How are marine boots better than rutter sabatons? Same STR same VIT, rutters has more defense.

[Dammerung]

Isn't Vulcan Staff + Grip better? And I guess it was made before Smil+1 mantle came out.

Why is Fort Torque ranked higher than Kubira necklace?

[Nirokun!]

Isn't Vulcan Staff + Grip better? And I guess it was made before Smil+1 mantle came out.

Why is Fort Torque ranked higher than Kubira necklace?

earlier somewhere in this thread (or a separate cannonball thread) people say that, should the mob turn, you lose all your acc. and you cant really TP in the staff off adds, so people like the sword. but i think they said staff/grip is better, but sword/shield is more safe? i forget

[Arkanna]

Isn't Vulcan Staff + Grip better? And I guess it was made before Smil+1 mantle came out.

Why is Fort Torque ranked higher than Kubira necklace?

earlier somewhere in this thread (or a separate cannonball thread) people say that, should the mob turn, you lose all your acc. and you cant really TP in the staff off adds, so people like the sword. but i think they said staff/grip is better, but sword/shield is more safe? i forget

On mobs where you can't TP at all, staff + grip will do you better. On mobs where you can TP on them, or on nearby adds, then sword + shield would be preferable imo.

[Fiofio]

Does anybody know or remember the duration of effect for the spell "Yawn"?

[Tonko]

Yawn = 90 seconds. Just went out and tested it.

BLU sleep can't overwrite itself, nor any other type of sleep. It's at the bottom of the sleep hierarchy :-/

[Delekii]

Yawn = 90 seconds? Just went out and tested it.

BLU sleep can't overwrite itself, nor any other type of sleep. It's at the bottom of the sleep hierarchy :-/

Soporific is tier 2, the rest are tier 1

[Tonko]

I just tried Soporific over Sheep Song, said it had no effect.

[Fiofio]

Ok thanks... would you choose to use Yawn or Soporific? The reason why I'm asking is because, too often I'm jumped by 2 or more mobs in Campaign and I'd like a good, reliable sleep to cast on them. From the looks of it, Yawn has a shorter recast at 60 seconds, compared to Soporific's 90 seconds, but it costs 27mp more (55mp vs 38mp) and the mob needs to be facing you in order for it to work. Yawn is light-based too, correct?

edit: If soporific is tier 2, does that mean that it's like Sleep for priority?