Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Nazrious]

yeah wow man don't bust a vein. If he wants to light himself on fire and run into the main corporate office holding this petittion thing thats his own choice. Leave him be man.

Edit: nope nothing to discuss until the time comes for us to be dissapointed at the fail of SE at giving us another mutli hit blunt instead of a slashing

[LD]

LD shut up

he can go around thinking he can help if he wants to

the person that has no right dictating what other people can and cannot do is you. he's not taking credit for jack shit, he's going around asking players from different forums what they think would help xxjob and trying to narrow it down to a list that he hopes players will each sign at the bottom and send it to SE's suggestion box. he's not hurting anyone

so shut up LD

Hypocrite. He can talk, but I have to shut up? I can't think and say what I want?

In any event, it doesn't make me wrong. Haven't you read the other posts he's made? The whole topic? Narrow down a list of what we want changed? Like what everyone does on a daily basis? It's not the fact that he's doing this, he's attempting it with less information and experience than the average player. Even someone who hadn't played the job has more validity than him, since he would probably have played with it at some point, and more recently. Don't you think there's something wrong with validating someone who has shown they have no idea what they're talking about? I mean, I may disagree with many people, but I acknowledge they understand the game at least as well as I do, unless they show otherwise. While I bring down a string of empirical information and proven facts, I never present myself as the be all end all of anything having to do with anything (except possibly logic). So before you say that I'm being just as forceful with my ideas, remember that I'm not the one who suggested 1k needles cost more, and I'm willing to bet most people wouldn't (75 BLU or not).

Anyone who wants to dance about the real reason people want me to shut up, my PM button is right there, bitches. Or, if you want to continue an older argument, do so here at your own risk.

[ronin sparthos]

This thread is so beat to death, honestly, is there anything more to discuss here until the new spells get added?

Same could be said for alotta shit on BG, but whats the fun if people dont rehash nonsense and come up with how they would fix things/discuss ideas?

You end up like lolKI when you dont.

[LD]

Have you BEEN to KI? ._.

Really, it's like all they do on most of the job boards.

[ronin sparthos]

I could, if the site didnt load slow as shit.

I was more mentioning the main page which is all but dead, compared to BGs advanced forums.

[LD]

KI was Flame Wars until that got deleted, so that's a fair indication that it was built on a large amount of nonsense.

I always thought the best part of BG was that it had people who generally knew what they were talking about, even if you don't necessarily agree or like them, while holding other people to the same standard. Knowledge and Experience are the only things we can really judge each other on.

[ronin sparthos]

Issue is the game hasnt got its adrenaline shot in months, so people are naturally gonna beat some dead horses and talk about personal things they'd like to see changed. Doesnt help WoTG was a cocktease for all those months to launch like *this*.

Most things in 'XI have been figured out by now, the other half like AV - no one gives a fuck about anymore until SE decides that the standoff can be over. This is the best site for formulas and blunt suggestions though even if some people come off as dickwads. Its just nice to imagine how much better FFXI would be if SE took player suggestions to the dev table and apply them without shitty gimmicks.

Anyways, i think the next update will give BLU a new big spell in Asuran Claws, Spiral Spin has potential as a mid-level spell of choice (filling in the gap between mandibular and death scissors with better spells is a plus) and hopefully we get a Wivre spell (Boiling Blood please x.x)

The magical based spells i wont hope for anything amazing, the pertulent ooze looks like its gonna be nerfed when blu gets it ~.~ Regurgitate looks 'ok' and the Gnat move looks situational.

[Kenji]

One problem with your line of reasoning, LD: As you've noted, the ideas aren't mine. So everytime you rage against them, you're raging against your fellow Lv75 BLUs. Was my 1000 needles "fix" crappy? Yes. That's why it's gone now. What's left is purely the result of the BLU discussion. I'm merely summing it up into a packaged form that we can send on to SE.

But whatever, keep posting if it makes you feel better, til all the sand is gone. I think I'll keep posting just because it pisses you off.


Here, have a dancing Bub!

[Nirokun!]

Hypocrite. He can talk, but I have to shut up? I can't think and say what I want?

In any event, it doesn't make me wrong. Haven't you read the other posts he's made? The whole topic? Narrow down a list of what we want changed? Like what everyone does on a daily basis? It's not the fact that he's doing this, he's attempting it with less information and experience than the average player. Even someone who hadn't played the job has more validity than him, since he would probably have played with it at some point, and more recently. Don't you think there's something wrong with validating someone who has shown they have no idea what they're talking about? I mean, I may disagree with many people, but I acknowledge they understand the game at least as well as I do, unless they show otherwise. While I bring down a string of empirical information and proven facts, I never present myself as the be all end all of anything having to do with anything (except possibly logic). So before you say that I'm being just as forceful with my ideas, remember that I'm not the one who suggested 1k needles cost more, and I'm willing to bet most people wouldn't (75 BLU or not).

Anyone who wants to dance about the real reason people want me to shut up, my PM button is right there, bitches. Or, if you want to continue an older argument, do so here at your own risk.

Its not hypocritical when i come here telling you to stop acting like a mod on my forums. I've been here long enough to know what is allowed and what is not, what is simply innocent fluff.

What you're doing isnt a mere gb2ZAM, you're trying to express to him that you're some kind of authority here, and you're really not. Your speculative opinion doesnt mean more than anyone else here, and you cant judge another player who's clearly keeping up with whats on the forums for trying to synthesize a list. He may not be an expert, but he hasnt created a shitty spam thread (that would have gotten deleted or moved to newbie by mods.)

I've read all his posts and this entire topic. I've read his job adjustment thread, and his smn adjustment thread on KI. He talks with a different tone to the people at KI, but the people at KI carry a different tone with him. I'm not unaware of what he's doing/saying.

His innocent attempt at making a formal suggestion box entry is none of your business, if you dont like it, dont read it. People like this kind of shit, it lets them have their delusions of grandeur, and people discuss stuff. Its something for them to do in their idle time.

Like i said, he's not an expert (and he makes mistakes with interpreting what people want to happen), nor is he forcing anything on anybody. His little list is being molded by the responses to it, and its harmless at best.

And for the record, if you'd like to know, i think you're a douche and im waiting for my happybirthday nirokun banhammer present from modzilla. get a new account ready, because the banhammer giveth and taketh away. Too bad you dont know when

[Nazrious]

Wow niro I think I love you, want to have my man babies?

anything else I say on the whole LD thing would be a copy paste from niro so I'm just gonna leave that be.

To sorta get back to Blue Mage.

I really really hope Asuran claws is slashing. Can we get a collective wish from all Blus that Asuran Claws is slashing?

also it would be hot if they gave it an atk mod! ut thats not likely /emo. If they did however that shit would be so fucking sex.

[Sho]

This thread is so beat to death, honestly, is there anything more to discuss here until the new spells get added?

Exactly why I don't post much on this topic anymore. Even after new spells are released, there won't be much change in terms of "discussion," unless one of the spells is groundbreaking.

[Nazrious]

Hey whats the lowest recast that you can get on head butt? with or with out /rdm

[ronin sparthos]

Asuran Claws better be slashing... it sounds slashing

[Kenji]

Exactly why I don't post much on this topic anymore. Even after new spells are released, there won't be much change in terms of "discussion," unless one of the spells is groundbreaking.

I'm sure there will be discussion, to find out all the mods for the new spells. Given the wide variety of stats that's involved in BLU spells, I wouldn't find it surprising to find a new spell modified by AGI and ranged attack!

[Arkanna]

Exactly why I don't post much on this topic anymore. Even after new spells are released, there won't be much change in terms of "discussion," unless one of the spells is groundbreaking.

I'm sure there will be discussion, to find out all the mods for the new spells. Given the wide variety of stats that's involved in BLU spells, I wouldn't find it surprising to find a new spell modified by AGI and ranged attack!

Uggh, please, no. Please don't make me optimize another gearset just to get good results on the new spells.. -.-;;

[ronin sparthos]

Asuran Claws will probably be based on STR/VIT like Asuran Fists >.>;

[Kaslo]

The fact that Claw Cyclone is Slashing helps support Asuran Claws will be slashing >.> I think they are the only moves done with claws that we get

[Araius]

Asuran Claws is going to make me have to find someone to pop Boreal Hound for me. Needs moar epeen sig numbers

[ronin sparthos]

If the MP cost is more than Disserverment... its gonna be one of those spells you dont spam.

Im gonna guess the MP cost is like 90ish.

[Judai]

Hypocrite. He can talk, but I have to shut up? I can't think and say what I want?

In any event, it doesn't make me wrong. Haven't you read the other posts he's made? The whole topic? Narrow down a list of what we want changed? Like what everyone does on a daily basis? It's not the fact that he's doing this, he's attempting it with less information and experience than the average player. Even someone who hadn't played the job has more validity than him, since he would probably have played with it at some point, and more recently. Don't you think there's something wrong with validating someone who has shown they have no idea what they're talking about? I mean, I may disagree with many people, but I acknowledge they understand the game at least as well as I do, unless they show otherwise. While I bring down a string of empirical information and proven facts, I never present myself as the be all end all of anything having to do with anything (except possibly logic). So before you say that I'm being just as forceful with my ideas, remember that I'm not the one who suggested 1k needles cost more, and I'm willing to bet most people wouldn't (75 BLU or not).

Anyone who wants to dance about the real reason people want me to shut up, my PM button is right there, bitches. Or, if you want to continue an older argument, do so here at your own risk.

Its not hypocritical when i come here telling you to stop acting like a mod on my forums. I've been here long enough to know what is allowed and what is not, what is simply innocent fluff.

What you're doing isnt a mere gb2ZAM, you're trying to express to him that you're some kind of authority here, and you're really not. Your speculative opinion doesnt mean more than anyone else here, and you cant judge another player who's clearly keeping up with whats on the forums for trying to synthesize a list. He may not be an expert, but he hasnt created a shitty spam thread (that would have gotten deleted or moved to newbie by mods.)

I've read all his posts and this entire topic. I've read his job adjustment thread, and his smn adjustment thread on KI. He talks with a different tone to the people at KI, but the people at KI carry a different tone with him. I'm not unaware of what he's doing/saying.

His innocent attempt at making a formal suggestion box entry is none of your business, if you dont like it, dont read it. People like this kind of shit, it lets them have their delusions of grandeur, and people discuss stuff. Its something for them to do in their idle time.

Like i said, he's not an expert (and he makes mistakes with interpreting what people want to happen), nor is he forcing anything on anybody. His little list is being molded by the responses to it, and its harmless at best.

And for the record, if you'd like to know, i think you're a douche and im waiting for my happybirthday nirokun banhammer present from modzilla. get a new account ready, because the banhammer giveth and taketh away. Too bad you dont know when

Just want to say, after having learned who Naz is on Ifrit, he is a total joke of a BLU. This guy will never be a major DD in a party and really doesn't have a clue how to play the job in game. I haven't read anything here cause he can't fucking type and really I don't care unless it's good new info but you are defending a complete noob. I understand you are trying to keep peace and tell people not to flame "ideas" and such but Naz/Sesshomaro is a total noob and joke. Horrible BLU.

He need to learn how to gear properly, what subs to use for what events and what spells to use and when before making suggestions. HE came BLU/RDM to Sky to do idk what for us when we needed and asked for a DD. Not even sure if he has /THF leveled but I never saw it at Events. He just hit 75BLU like last month as well, so not like he is some experienced BLU. That's all I will say, sorry to flame in this thread but I figured I would post some insight into this guy claiming to be a BLU Guru.