Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[FinalJustice]

There is no actual knock back on head butt, it's just a graphical thing. It can't make Nig/Faf flail, it doesn't change the position of the target, so that's not what interrupts casting. You an start casting a teleport, run around in a huge circle and as long as you're where you started when the spell tries to finish casting, it'll go off.

What about Uppercut?

Easiest way to test this would be Disseverment I think, test the duration of the poison between a fully merited BLU and a non merited with equal BLU skill.

Hmm, that would be excellent to test. I don't know any unmerited blu's anymore or i'd test it myself.

[Xaosykotik]

I don't think people are arguing against it so much as saying it probably won't happen.

I think every blm would have an aneurysm if they made Blu able to pull out 1500 magical nukes, even if Blu had to spend twice the mp to do it.

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I got my Firespit doing 1k +(still missing a couple pieces of gear)....Eyes on Me and Mind Blast are nice as well.....poor BLM's can't even touch my dmg on Frost Breath or Heat Breath in dyna xarc.....so yeah they're probably already having them.

[Rheya]

There is no actual knock back on head butt, it's just a graphical thing. It can't make Nig/Faf flail, it doesn't change the position of the target, so that's not what interrupts casting.

I noticed that Head Butt screwed up SATA positioning while leveling in traditional parties, but like you said, it's not because the mob itself moved. The rest of the party THINKS the mob moved, so everyone makes slight position adjustments that they didn't need to make, and then the mob does move to compensate. If a SATA follows closely behind all this, it misses and is attributed to Head Butt causing the mob to move.

[Xaosykotik]

There is no actual knock back on head butt, it's just a graphical thing. It can't make Nig/Faf flail, it doesn't change the position of the target, so that's not what interrupts casting.

I noticed that Head Butt screwed up SATA positioning while leveling in traditional parties, but like you said, it's not because the mob itself moved. The rest of the party THINKS the mob moved, so everyone makes slight position adjustments that they didn't need to make, and then the mob does move to compensate. If a SATA follows closely behind all this, it misses and is attributed to Head Butt causing the mob to move.

Using Head Butt on Faf/Nid still not a very good idea.....could cause ppl to take breath full force due to the slight momentary reposition....very very bad.

[Kaslo]

I don't think people are arguing against it so much as saying it probably won't happen.

I think every blm would have an aneurysm if they made Blu able to pull out 1500 magical nukes, even if Blu had to spend twice the mp to do it.

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I got my Firespit doing 1k +(still missing a couple pieces of gear)....Eyes on Me and Mind Blast are nice as well.....poor BLM's can't even touch my dmg on Frost Breath or Heat Breath in dyna xarc.....so yeah they're probably already having them.

Yeah BLMs generally can't touch my Eyes on Me on Dragon and Behe floors of HNM Limbus Path and my Eyes on Me on Fortitude is not much lower than Normal BLMs. The BLMs in my LSs don't tend to care but they aren't the pitchfork carrying variety of BG

[ronin sparthos]

There is no actual knock back on head butt, it's just a graphical thing. It can't make Nig/Faf flail, it doesn't change the position of the target, so that's not what interrupts casting.

I noticed that Head Butt screwed up SATA positioning while leveling in traditional parties, but like you said, it's not because the mob itself moved. The rest of the party THINKS the mob moved, so everyone makes slight position adjustments that they didn't need to make, and then the mob does move to compensate. If a SATA follows closely behind all this, it misses and is attributed to Head Butt causing the mob to move.

Using Head Butt on Faf/Nid still not a very good idea.....could cause ppl to take breath full force due to the slight momentary reposition....very very bad.

FALSE. FALSE and some more FALSE. The knockback is only a visual, the monster does not move (unlike players hit by Quadavs doing it.)

[Xaosykotik]

There is no actual knock back on head butt, it's just a graphical thing. It can't make Nig/Faf flail, it doesn't change the position of the target, so that's not what interrupts casting.

I noticed that Head Butt screwed up SATA positioning while leveling in traditional parties, but like you said, it's not because the mob itself moved. The rest of the party THINKS the mob moved, so everyone makes slight position adjustments that they didn't need to make, and then the mob does move to compensate. If a SATA follows closely behind all this, it misses and is attributed to Head Butt causing the mob to move.

Using Head Butt on Faf/Nid still not a very good idea.....could cause ppl to take breath full force due to the slight momentary reposition....very very bad.

FALSE. FALSE and some more FALSE. The knockback is only a visual, the monster does not move (unlike players hit by Quadavs doing it.)

Yeah....it's false....this is why I've seen half an alliance die to breath because of it.

[ronin sparthos]

Your alliance didnt die because of the knockback, your alliance died because people werent in position to begin with. Ive Head Butt Nyzul Fafnir, Limbus Nidhogg, Tiamat multiple times and never once has positioning been screwed up because of head butt. It does not change a monsters posistion, its merely an animation - Uppercut, i dont know if it changes a mobs position.

[LeifofKujata]

I've yet to see Uppercut interrupt a spell with its "knockback" animation. I believe its just like Head Butt, visual spring effect only larger.

[stamos]

On the new spells..

Well, I hope all spells are useful like last set of new spells. Originally when they put the new spells in(Mind blast etc) I was unimpressed but later found great use out of every spell put in.

[LD]

Only thing that worries me about the new spells is how we're gunna get Asuran Claws. I can only hope they have EP-EM standing Gnoles in Davoi.

[stamos]

lol just log on kind of soon after the update, first spell I got last time was zephyr mantle. Went to solo it, and ended up with an alliance for all the spells

[ronin sparthos]

Only thing that worries me about the new spells is how we're gunna get Asuran Claws. I can only hope they have EP-EM standing Gnoles in Davoi.

Asuran Claws will prolly be like the 3 TS monster moves in ToAU, Lobisons onry and you can prolly just get a nice BLU alliance to get it anyways.

...Though there is prolly room to put Gnoles in the northlands, makes sense in theory.

[LD]

I really really hope not. It's not just the level or the difficulty of a fucking Lobison during a Full moon, it's the fact that every BLU is going to go after them. :/ Even with Soulflayers and Wamoura you had a few options, there were multiple camps for them, but the Lobison camp is currently the only group of standing Gnoles. If I had to, I could round up my friends just like I did for the really tough TAU spells, but even with the fast respawn, I expect heavy competition for the move if it's just Lobisons who can give it. Anyway, they added Gents to Saruta, hammer isn't as tough anymore (though the pop conditions seem to be weird), so they could make other spells easier too.

[Tonko]

Just do Jugner Campaign. Gnolls show up often, and Anders does Asuran.

[LD]

Yea, but then there's the problem of it working with Beseiged rules, you have to be in the PT, etc. etc.

[Kaslo]

Just do Jugner Campaign. Gnolls show up often, and Anders does Asuran.

yay @ hopeing my alliance gets kill and not one of the NPCs

[Sho]

lol just log on kind of soon after the update, first spell I got last time was zephyr mantle. Went to solo it, and ended up with an alliance for all the spells

This happened to me, cept it was Blank Gaze. One of the best days of my FFXI life, tbh.

[Kaslo]

Just sucks that post update is always 3 hours of HNM camps for me :/

[iCelerity]

After the Enmity tests made by Kaeko and Ashira, in a BLU tank situation, I currently have +18% haste in equipment (No speed/Velocious Belt :/) what'd be a more beneficial body piece, Nashira Manteel (+3% for obvious reasons of recast on long recast spells. That'd put me in 21% haste in equipment) or a Morrigan's Robe to help aleviate(sp lol) with the MP consume of such high cost spells or constat spam?
I'm aware alot of "Shit is situational" or "Macro them" answers will come out, but I hate blinking in equipment change every second
So; Nashira Manteel or Morrigan's Robe?