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  1. #3881
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    Shit is situational, macro them.



    No, seriously

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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    Quote Originally Posted by Delekii
    Shit is situational, macro them.



    No, seriously
    This. Why wouldn't you macro them to get the benefit from both?

  3. #3883
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    Quote Originally Posted by LD
    Yea, but then there's the problem of it working with Beseiged rules, you have to be in the PT, etc. etc.
    Perhaps get a bunch of Blu together for it and spam the crap out on the mob to get hate at the end? It isn't that difficult to grab hate if one really desired it in Campaign, and for Blu is easier.

  4. #3884
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    Quote Originally Posted by Meian
    Quote Originally Posted by LD
    Yea, but then there's the problem of it working with Beseiged rules, you have to be in the PT, etc. etc.
    Perhaps get a bunch of Blu together for it and spam the crap out on the mob to get hate at the end? It isn't that difficult to grab hate if one really desired it in Campaign, and for Blu is easier.
    hopefully in the new strongholds there will be weaker versions for us to get the spell from. Aside from that shit is gonna suck, but then Blus have managed to get spells from some pretty nasty mobs.

  5. #3885
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    Is Loq. Earring worth getting for someone with Blu as their only mage-ish job? I've been saving coins for a while but I'm wondering if I wouldn't be better off with the money. For context, the amount of coins I've saved is worth 500-750k on my server.

  6. #3886
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    I had one already, and I use it in any situation where I'm not meleeing or using damaging spells, but for most BLUs that isn't often enough to justify getting one if you don't have one already, plus there are other earrings that would be perfectly reasonable to use instead in those situations.

  7. #3887
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    Quote Originally Posted by Deftscythe
    Is Loq. Earring worth getting for someone with Blu as their only mage-ish job? I've been saving coins for a while but I'm wondering if I wouldn't be better off with the money. For context, the amount of coins I've saved is worth 500-750k on my server.
    I got a Loq. Earring when I had NIN only if for nothing else than shadows, there's really no reason not to get one.

  8. #3888
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    Quote Originally Posted by Meian
    Quote Originally Posted by LD
    Yea, but then there's the problem of it working with Beseiged rules, you have to be in the PT, etc. etc.
    Perhaps get a bunch of Blu together for it and spam the crap out on the mob to get hate at the end? It isn't that difficult to grab hate if one really desired it in Campaign, and for Blu is easier.
    By that logic, why even bother with doing campaigns and hoping anders shows up? Why not go straight for the lobisons in an alliance? The same reason campaign is so iffy, with so many people killing the mob, the odds of killing it before it uses the move (or in the case of campaign, killing it at all) can be rather low. Hate is not the issue in campaign, it's the killing blow, and with so many people wailing on it, even if you think you'll be the one to grab it, it can quickly be taken from you. Don't try to shine up a shitty situation.

    If they add standing gnoles somewhere else, what I said is irrelavent, since it was based on the idea that they wont, and I already expressed the hope that they will.

    Loq is an excelent earring for a BLU who isn't focusing on their melee, especially since it helps spells besides physical ones. Really, the only other good ones I can think of for spellcasting(besides STR rings, which are limited to physical) are Magnetic & Suppa.

  9. #3889
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    Novia/Loq - Healing and do other stuff aside from nuking
    and
    Novio/Moldy - Hi 1.1k MB on Faf

    FTW.

  10. #3890
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    Quote Originally Posted by LD
    Only thing that worries me about the new spells is how we're gunna get Asuran Claws. I can only hope they have EP-EM standing Gnoles in Davoi.
    Got a BLU friend of mine, also has Morr robe, and 4/5 homam (me too, he missing legs, I'm missing head), and I'll 2 box a WHM with like -40 enmity, I'm fairly certain we can "duo" the 1's in Jugner almost as soon as update hits.

    Can pull the 1 by the maw and fight it by there so no links, and if sh*t gets bad, can sleep it and Maw out, but I personally think it's doable, and most likely another BLU will show up.

  11. #3891
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    At present the ones in jugner do not do asuran claws, but they are not that difficult. Personally melee soloed them rdm/blm cause I was bored between campaign battles and needed a claw for a quest. I do hope they change it so more than just lobisons and Alpha Anders can change to standing to do asuran claws. Otherwise its gonna be like mind blast and body slam for many people all over again.

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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    When he said the ones in jugner, he meant Lobisons (they are in Jugner)

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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    When he said maw I don't recall any over there, but my mistake then

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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    They mention whm teles and blm warps but only hint at the possibility of Blus getting new spells in the update. Perhaps I'm being pessimistic but it bothers me that SE did not put a blurb in about new blu spells.
    But yay for a decent update announcement compared to the other shit so far.

    or ?

    I think but with SE there is always the chance for .

    Something that did intrest me is the whole:

    A host of new magic and job abilities will be added to a number of jobs.

    Of course they could simply be talking about ability dependant jobs only but hey SE may surprise us all and give a Job some abilities making them the, almost forgotten about, new tank job.
    I had my eye on Bst as a possible new tank but from some more recent talk about how well Blu tanks some endgame content I can see SE easily making Blu a decent enough tank for much more content.

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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    I just tried to solo one, after head butt + hysteric barrage it owned me in 2 seconds. Took all 3 of my shadows and bring my hp to 0 with 8 hits. Is this normal? This is at Last Quarter Moon 50%.

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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    Is there any, any indication AT ALL that Asuran Claws will be added or is everyone just doing the usual turning baseless speculation into "SE said they were going to release AC!"

  17. #3897
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir
    Is there any, any indication AT ALL that Asuran Claws will be added or is everyone just doing the usual turning baseless speculation into "SE said they were going to release AC!"
    I think it's that SE said they were going to release new BLU spells this update (not in the recent announcements but in that thing that Elmer translated), and that Asuran Claws animation is in the .dat files. So I don't know if you'd call that baseless speculation, but it's at least more realistic than the whole Battery Charge debate that was going on for a while.

  18. #3898
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    Fair enough

  19. #3899
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    Tried to solo them, the 2nd one did this to me. I'm afraid to solo them now.
    http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...309_224930.png

  20. #3900
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    I think i would check the new zones first to see if there is any Gnoles end up being in there that act like anders in campaign. I would not be surprised if those kinda Gnoles end up inside of davoi in the past.

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