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  1. #3921
    I trusted Zet and this is what happened
    Eleven owes me $40 bucks

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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholette
    Regurgitation in Auto-translate. Did we get a fifth spell?
    How many spells are in auto-translate? Cause there was 100 pre-update

  2. #3922
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    Asuran Claw - gnole on hind feet
    Corrosive Ooze - Those yellow slug
    Regurgitation - them basilisk thing
    Spiral Spin - lady bug
    Seedspray - those Rafflesia thingy

  3. #3923
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    Well i feel cheated, no spell from Gnat even tho it was added in the dats with those other spells.

  4. #3924
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    4/5 now, only missing lolasuranclaws

  5. #3925
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    Quote Originally Posted by Chupunpupun
    Quote Originally Posted by Suiram
    So something to consider. Most BLUs I think are like me, when blu/nin use 225/236 delay weapons, suppa and brutal so setting store TP is kinda pointless since it only takes you from 20 swings to 19 after chain affinity (99% after 18). But, if I did my math right here, equipping the new amnesia ring in place of a sniper (+1) will increase your TP gain from 5.5% per hand to 5.6% per hand, meaning you're at 100.8% after 18 swings.

    So I guess what I'm debating now is, since Store TP would probably have to replace Attack Bonus in terms of spell selection, which is better, Attack+10, Accuracy+1 (or +3), or achieving 100% TP in 10% less time (but only after chain affinity)?
    Toreador/Snipers+1 is better because if you missed a hit during that 18hits, you're back to getting 100% @19 hits. I probably won't use this ring cause I have a toreador but if I had a NQ sniper, I would reconsider.
    While you are somewhat right in theory, the idea that it's worth it if you are using an nq, and not if you are using a hq, is very silly. Also, a lot of the time even losing 3.5% hit rate will not cost you an extra attack to 100%TP - it depends what accuracy you would be at with each..

  6. #3926
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    4/5 (No claws)

    The Ooze move is single hit, might be a handy new debuff if the effects are as potent.

    Spiral Spin is 3 points and 1 Str; Nice for Str whoring.

    Oddly enough, Regurgitation is 1 point for Water + Bind.

  7. #3927
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    Anybody mind posting required level for the new spells?

    Wondering if I should dig out my 60 BLU before LS Party on Wednesday.

  8. #3928
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    Regur. 69;
    Corrosiv. 66;
    Spiral 60;
    Seed Spray. 61;

    Another note, All the spells(Sans Claws) have quite a bit of range on them.

  9. #3929
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    Any word on job trait assignment?

  10. #3930
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    For what it is worth, the Blue Mage Hunting Grounds is being updated with Camps as info comes in.

    I hope it helps folks a little.

    http://70.85.147.102/blu/BLUMain.html

    Myriads

  11. #3931
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    Aparently using provoke on the Lobi make them stand. Our BLU group here on remora is doing this. A few people have Asuran Claws.

    81MP, AGI+3, 2 set points...

  12. #3932
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    Two points? Holy crap, I was honestly expecting 5...

    Let us know what the damage looks like, comparable to our Big 3 etc

  13. #3933
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    Quote Originally Posted by [Vax
    ]Aparently using provoke on the Lobi make them stand. Our BLU group here on remora is doing this. A few people have Asuran Claws.

    81MP, AGI+3, 2 set points...
    2set points? Either the spell sucks or SE is throwing the blue mages restitution for the failure that was Assimilation!

    Heres to hoping Asuran is better than Hysteric Barrage and slightly under Diss.

    Perhaps Gnoles are one of those 'reactionary to JA' monsters? It seems to be a common trait among formerly humanoid enemies and machinery... (Soulflayers, Flans, Gears etc)

  14. #3934
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    From what we've seen so far, it's not amazing but not horrible.. I'm wondering if it has to do with moon phase.

    It's doing less than dissever to the lobi, but they are blunt resistant I guess. It's doing about the same as rip.

    Looking forward to testing on imps. I'm going to check right now if you can make the Gnoles out in Batallia [S] will stand via the same method.

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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    I used alot of JAs on normal Gnoles in Battalia Downs before, i think it might be a moon phase/JA reaction that Lobisons have.

    Try doing it though, its been a while since ive played with gnoles.

  16. #3936
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    Quote Originally Posted by [Vax
    ]From what we've seen so far, it's not amazing but not horrible.. I'm wondering if it has to do with moon phase.

    It's doing less than dissever to the lobi, but they are blunt resistant I guess. It's doing about the same as rip.

    Looking forward to testing on imps. I'm going to check right now if you can make the Gnoles out in Batallia [S] will stand via the same method.
    so it's blunt and not slashing??

  17. #3937
    I trusted Zet and this is what happened
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    We need JoT/Limbus tests >.>

  18. #3938
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    I read VZX's post on Alla, and came back to my group as PLD/WAR. In about 5 or 6 Lobisons, we've seen 4 of them stand, only one used Asuran Claws tho. I just engage, and use Provoke every time it's up, and we take our time killing it, and it usually stands... And uses Nox Blast >_> I use every JA except Sentinel when it's up, ... and except Chivalry ^^ Hope this is helpful in some way.

    Also, unlike VZX, I got one Lobison to stand twice in one fight.

    It just reacted to Provoke, i.e: Stood right after Voke, 3 times in a row. Not 3 Vokes in a row, but after the action.

  19. #3939
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    Quote Originally Posted by shukuffxi
    I read VZX's post on Alla, and came back to my group as PLD/WAR. In about 5 or 6 Lobisons, we've seen 4 of them stand, only one used Asuran Claws tho. I just engage, and use Provoke every time it's up, and we take our time killing it, and it usually stands... And uses Nox Blast >_> I use every JA except Sentinel when it's up, ... and except Chivalry ^^ Hope this is helpful in some way.

    Also, unlike VZX, I got one Lobison to stand twice in one fight.
    Did you check the moon phase?

  20. #3940
    I am a Cockwhistle
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    Re: Blue Mage: Job Findings

    New Moon, 2%, our JP member just got it.

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