Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Moochi]

Dissector onry.

If the crit works on spells it would be pretty own. Maybe main hand martial and off hand dissector? Thought it prob doesn't work to off hand and get the stuff to work on spells.

[Demetrios]

He's using martial anelace+brutal earring. I wonder if double attack procs in the blu magic attacks, homam body tripple attack would be really nice if it does O_o

Or he's using an NQ Anelace since the only better sword at 75 would be Shiva's Shotel (kinda rare since no one farms the avatar BCNM) if "TP Bonus" has no affect on BLU spells during chain affinity.

It's Martial Anelace.

I just went out to cadarva mire at 63, engaged a tough imp, got frenetic rip'd, killed it and learnt it lol

oh yeah it gave me 200xp too. blu ftw.

Lucky bish.

I've been out here killing these while dual boxing a WHM. Used it once so far in about 1:30. Didn't get it. Thought I'm getting like 5k an hour solo.

I assume you're from his server/LS. Is he using it simply because it makes his Vorpal Blade stronger or because "TP Bonus" applies to BLU physical magic during Chain Affinity?

[Demetrios]

Just like the ones on bibiki dhamels that are like 1200 death scissors but "these SS were not zerked"...

Sorry if anyone did a 2k+ while zerked they would have SS'd for epeen by now

Hmm... if your own attack has no impact on the damage of BLU physical magic perhaps the mob's defense is irrelevant as well.

[NynJa]

Is Martial Anelace really worth using? I've tried out the TP mods (HOLY SHIT I TESTED STUFF OUT NO FUCKING WAY), and they dont do jack shit.

SA Helldive with 300 TP, 130 dmg.
SA Helldive with 30 TP, 125 dmg.

unless the 300TP mod is supposed to add 5 dmg.......well lol.



However I was only BLU30 at the time, and from what I've gathered, Chain Affinity unlocks the TP mods. So I'll play around with those more when I hit 45.



Or maybe of course the spells I have at my disposal at lvl 30 just arent meant to be stacked with SA.

[Razz]

Just like the ones on bibiki dhamels that are like 1200 death scissors but "these SS were not zerked"...

Sorry if anyone did a 2k+ while zerked they would have SS'd for epeen by now

Hmm... if your own attack has no impact on the damage of BLU physical magic perhaps the mob's defense is irrelevant as well.

I think so because my bludgeons do the same if not a tiny bit more on easier mobs than they do on IT mobs. I'll test out frenetic rip on IT mobs when I get the chance. Good luck moochi lol :3

[Demetrios]

Is Martial Anelace really worth using? I've tried out the TP mods (HOLY SHIT I TESTED STUFF OUT NO FUCKING WAY), and they dont do jack shit.

SA Helldive with 300 TP, 130 dmg.
SA Helldive with 30 TP, 125 dmg.

unless the 300TP mod is supposed to add 5 dmg.......well lol.



However I was only BLU30 at the time, and from what I've gathered, Chain Affinity unlocks the TP mods. So I'll play around with those more when I hit 45.



Or maybe of course the spells I have at my disposal at lvl 30 just arent meant to be stacked with SA.

Yeah, TP doesn't have any impact on your physical spells until level 45 when you can start using Chain Affinity. Only Battousi and Bulk can test the sword for us before the market prices sky rocket.

[Raineer]

Just like the ones on bibiki dhamels that are like 1200 death scissors but "these SS were not zerked"...

Sorry if anyone did a 2k+ while zerked they would have SS'd for epeen by now

Hmm... if your own attack has no impact on the damage of BLU physical magic perhaps the mob's defense is irrelevant as well.

Doesn't make sense, so all of BLU's physical spells ignore defense?

When I'm soloing, I don't seem to do anywhere near the same damage on EP's as I do Tough's. One example is Feather Storm, does like 20-30 on dhamels in Tahrongi but 80-90 on Saruta crawlers (120xp mobs vs 20-30xp mobs). Would that much be attributed to VIT?

[Razz]

Just a thought - what do people think of Azure Lore's effect? Do you think it does the same thing as martial weapons with the "virtual tp" or is it just a multi use elemental seal?

[NynJa]

Whats Azure Lore lol ??

j/k, but I've never used it...

[Demetrios]

Just like the ones on bibiki dhamels that are like 1200 death scissors but "these SS were not zerked"...

Sorry if anyone did a 2k+ while zerked they would have SS'd for epeen by now

Hmm... if your own attack has no impact on the damage of BLU physical magic perhaps the mob's defense is irrelevant as well.

Doesn't make sense, so all of BLU's physical spells ignore defense?

When I'm soloing, I don't seem to do anywhere near the same damage on EP's as I do Tough's. One example is Feather Storm, does like 20-30 on dhamels in Tahrongi but 80-90 on Saruta crawlers (120xp mobs vs 20-30xp mobs). Would that much be attributed to VIT?

My statement is based on Nny's testing of BLU physical magic and its damage modifiers. With double minuets he saw no significant statistical increase in damage, while with two STR etudes he saw a significant increase in damage. Physical accuracy and madrigal seemed to increase our average damage over time. Another thing is that our damage may be increase/decreased depending on what type of monsters we're fighting and what type of spell we're using. For example, don't use Helldive on birds or amorphs, but use it on aquans.

[Raineer]

Very well could be STR>VIT instead of ATK>DEF

Stewie >> indeed

[NynJa]

Does Feather Storm register as a multi hit ??

if all else, Im certain its considered ranged, so that may be attributed to rng nerf.

[Moochi]

Demetrios:

Not in his LS but a friend of his. Same server. Battosi also tanked Tiamat the other day as BLU/WAR and he said it worked really good. Though he didn't have the magical defence spells at the time. So that will prob own.

Oh, this sound stupid BUT lowering the mobs defence does increase your dmg but raising ATK does nothing. It's weird but that's what I've gathered so far. Frightful Roar usually makes my Bludgeons go from 80-100 to 90-120 on IT.

[aurik]

Demetrios:

Not in his LS but a friend of his. Same server. Battosi also tanked Tiamat the other day as BLU/WAR and he said it worked really good. Though he didn't have the magical defence spells at the time. So that will prob own.

Oh, this sound stupid BUT lowering the mobs defence does increase your dmg but raising ATK does nothing. It's weird but that's what I've gathered so far. Frightful Roar usually makes my Bludgeons go from 80-100 to 90-120 on IT.

That's not much of an increase; are you sure it's not just random luck or another debuff affecting the mob?

[Moochi]

That's not much of an increase; are you sure it's not just random luck or another debuff affecting the mob?

10-20% dmg increase is not alot? k.

Frightrul Roar lowers defence with 20% afaik. Add dia and you have 32%.

[NynJa]

had to wait for Moochi to reply, otherwise my post (which was gonna be something along the lines of "what kind of damage increase would you expect ?? bumping 100 dmg spells to 300 dmg ??") would be precieved as an attack on aurik...

[Lordwafik]

had to wait for Moochi to reply, otherwise my post (which was gonna be something along the lines of "what kind of damage increase would you expect ?? bumping 100 dmg spells to 300 dmg ??") would be precieved as an attack on aurik...

+1

[Battosi]

No sorry I did not use 300% TP with those Death Scissors. They were somewhere on the lines of 100-130% Tp. I wasn't even 75 at the time of using those either. I was level 73 and yes they were IT mobs.

[Nny]

10-20% dmg increase is not alot? k.

Frightrul Roar lowers defence with 20% afaik. Add dia and you have 32%.

You numbers are basically the same with and without Frightful Roar. Your test has no control, and you mean is a large range. It's not a good idea to test things on EXP mobs when it comes to what stats effect it, because it's extemely difficult to have a control in it.

Best way I've found to test it is find a DC-EM mob so that your accuracy will be capped, your ATK won't cap out, and it has enough HP to survive enough spells for the test. Then you get the high, the low, and the mean of with Frightful Roar and without Frightful Roar. My BLU is still 37 since I'm waiting on static members to be finished with their school, so I can't test it myself.

[Moochi]

10-20% dmg increase is not alot? k.

Frightrul Roar lowers defence with 20% afaik. Add dia and you have 32%.

You numbers are basically the same with and without Frightful Roar. Your test has no control, and you mean is a large range. It's not a good idea to test things on EXP mobs when it comes to what stats effect it, because it's extemely difficult to have a control in it.

Best way I've found to test it is find a DC-EM mob so that your accuracy will be capped, your ATK won't cap out, and it has enough HP to survive enough spells for the test. Then you get the high, the low, and the mean of with Frightful Roar and without Frightful Roar. My BLU is still 37 since I'm waiting on static members to be finished with their school, so I can't test it myself.

I didn't say I did any tests. This is just what I've experienced when I've been exping. Bludgeon is pretty consistant with 30-40 acc and Sushi. What I based it on was simply what I see when Frightful Roar gets resisted and when it doesn't. It does get resisted maybe 20-30% of the time for me now, using elemental staffs could probably lower that with alot.