Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Takiwaki]

Look closer:
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/2643/meltdownnr3.png

so whats the total HP for that kind of dmg?

knowing that the hp to dmg relation on this particular spell is not consistant, do you mind giving a real answer?

unless you misunderstood the question and have a habit of answering for people. . .

[LD]

Gunna go with bullshit, just like 1.2k Heat breath. I would have accepted 1k Frost Breath, but even with Converge & Saurian helm....

[Takiwaki]

Gunna go with bullshit, just like 1.2k Heat breath. I would have accepted 1k Frost Breath, but even with Converge & Saurian helm....

in dynamis just yesterday with around just over 1300 hp i was able to land about 1050ish dmg self destruct on a dynamis windy yag. which are way weaker than xarc demons.

for that kinda of dmg .. 2K + hp on a blu? is that possible? im a hume though maybe galka? lol

[LD]

Only a Galka MNK can get over 2k HP, last I checked.

[rath]

Only a Galka MNK can get over 2k HP, last I checked.

This is wrong, I get over 2k on drk all the time.

[LD]

and what race are you? also prove it, while I'm at it.
Oh, and Drain 2 doesn't count.

And just in case I'm wrong, I did say 'last I checked', which was roughly 2 years ago.

[montgomery]

Galka BLU can reach around 2k HP, including food. I'm sure there is other/better HP gear in some slots but I went by memory / AHable stuff. Here's what I came up with (went with MNK sub for the purposes of pushing your max HP):

Base HP: BLU/MNK: 1440

Anelace +1 +11 HP
Saurian Helm +50 HP
Tempered Chain +20 HP
Cassie Earring +50 HP
Intruder's Earring +40 HP
Magus Jubbah +12 HP
Alky's Bracelets +40 HP
Harmonious Ring x2 +20 HP/each
Gigant Mantle +80 HP
Desert Sash +30 HP
Dusk Trousers +1 +37 HP
Homam Gambieras +31 HP
Carbonara +1 +180 HP

Total: 2091.

Edit: Remembered Alky's has more HP than Dusk.

[LD]

Ah, FOOD, that's what I forgot. Even without the Carbs, that's more than I expected. Still, that's a Galka. I wont call you on the food thing, cuz I didn't specify and you would be using that if you're focusing on Breaths, but to be honest I was thinking 'just from gear.' My mistake, I suppose, but I would like to see a non-Galka pull that off (i.e. I don't believe it.)

More importantly, how exactly do Saurian Helm and Convergence interact?

[Ahnuld]

Unresisted Self-Destruct will do the same damage as your current HP obviously. It's not that hard if you stack up on it. I think he said he Convergence'd and BA'd it so with over 2k HP plus buffs you end up doing that much.

[Valiere]

Galka BLU can reach around 2k HP, including food. I'm sure there is other/better HP gear in some slots but I went by memory / AHable stuff. Here's what I came up with (went with MNK sub for the purposes of pushing your max HP):

Base HP: BLU/MNK: 1440

Anelace +1 +11 HP
Saurian Helm +50 HP
Tempered Chain +20 HP
Cassie Earring +50 HP
Intruder's Earring +40 HP
Magus Jubbah +12 HP
Alky's Bracelets +40 HP
Harmonious Ring x2 +20 HP/each
Gigant Mantle +80 HP
Desert Sash +30 HP
Dusk Trousers +1 +37 HP
Homam Gambieras +31 HP
Carbonara +1 +180 HP

Total: 2091.

Edit: Remembered Alky's has more HP than Dusk.

If you're going all the way, why not include HP gained via set spells?

[DragonCloud64]

Gunna go with bullshit, just like 1.2k Heat breath. I would have accepted 1k Frost Breath, but even with Converge & Saurian helm....

in dynamis just yesterday with around just over 1300 hp i was able to land about 1050ish dmg self destruct on a dynamis windy yag. which are way weaker than xarc demons.

for that kinda of dmg .. 2K + hp on a blu? is that possible? im a hume though maybe galka? lol

wow lol, 2K+ HP isn't that hard. I'm a hume for god sakes, i got around 2.2k with merits and Turtle soup on(no mantra). Don't forget that set spells ALSO add hp. If i was a galka and had mantra i could break 2300 HP easy.

[montgomery]

Galka BLU can reach around 2k HP, including food. I'm sure there is other/better HP gear in some slots but I went by memory / AHable stuff. Here's what I came up with (went with MNK sub for the purposes of pushing your max HP):

Base HP: BLU/MNK: 1440

Anelace +1 +11 HP
Saurian Helm +50 HP
Tempered Chain +20 HP
Cassie Earring +50 HP
Intruder's Earring +40 HP
Magus Jubbah +12 HP
Alky's Bracelets +40 HP
Harmonious Ring x2 +20 HP/each
Gigant Mantle +80 HP
Desert Sash +30 HP
Dusk Trousers +1 +37 HP
Homam Gambieras +31 HP
Carbonara +1 +180 HP

Total: 2091.

Edit: Remembered Alky's has more HP than Dusk.

If you're going all the way, why not include HP gained via set spells?

Didn't think of that at 1 am, hah. One moment then! :O

Using 46 set points:
Acticnic Burst +20 HP
Light of Penance +15 HP
Self-Destruct
Zephyr Mantle
Frost Breath
Heat Breath
Temporal Shift +10 HP
Radiant Breath +5 HP
Magic Fruit +5 HP
Healing Breeze +10 HP
Screwdriver +10 HP
Wild Oats +10 HP
Pollen +5 HP
Helldive +5 HP

A. Burst, LoPenance, and S-D for Auto-Refresh; Zephyr Mantle and Frost also makes conserve MP.

Total HP Boost: +90
Total HP: 2181

Also don't forget HP merits. :X anywhere from an extra 10~80 HP!

[Nirokun!]

you forgot max hp boost trait

edit: the text document i use if'n i should ever set breath spells

--Max HP Bonus--

Flying Hip Press 3
Frypan 3
(Body Slam 4)

--HP Spells--

actinic burst 20/4 = 5
pollen 5/1 = 5
wild oats 10/3 = 3.333
screwdriver 10/3 = 3.333
light of penance 15/5 = 3
sheep song 5/2 = 2.5
helldive 5/2 = 2.5
healing breeze 10/4 = 2.5
temporal shift 10/5 = 2
feather storm 5/3 = 1.667
wild carrot 5/3 = 1.667
yawn 5/3 = 1.667
magic fruit 5/3 = 1.667
ram charge 5/4 = 1.25
exuviation 5/4 = 1.25
radiant breath 5/4 = 1.25
dimensional death 5/5 = 1
death scissors 5/5 = 1

edit edit: max hp bonus: the numbers are set points. spell list: hp in the spell / spell set point cost = hp/point (its dumb, but maybe some people couldnt put it together late at night~)

[montgomery]

Max HP Boost from Spells wouldn't stack with Max HP Boost from /MNK.

[Nirokun!]

You sir, have a point! Maybe i'm the one that's tired here PP

[eva00r]

Your equipment list sucks.

Use these plz
Vulcan/Axe Grip +20HP
BQ Ring +75HP
Bloodbead Ring +50HP
Rho Necklace +30HP

2.3k HP is possible for BLU.

[DragonCloud64]

Your equipment list sucks.

Use these plz
Vulcan/Axe Grip +20HP
BQ Ring +75HP
Bloodbead Ring +50HP
Rho Necklace +30HP

2.3k HP is possible for BLU.

Also it would be great to get your hands on a gold moogle belt, +60 w/ a 2k base... now if these event moogles would cough one up..

[Ahnuld]

Your equipment list sucks.

Use these plz
Vulcan/Axe Grip +20HP
BQ Ring +75HP
Bloodbead Ring +50HP
Rho Necklace +30HP

2.3k HP is possible for BLU.

Also it would be great to get your hands on a gold moogle belt, +60 w/ a 2k base... now if these event moogles would cough one up..

I waited about 3-4 days for mine last year, if I remember correctly.

[Rena]

Bit of a fun fact about regurgitation if anybody cares that I figured out today, and never saw mentioned anywhere: the base damage multiplier (before INT difference is calculated) is normally 1.83, but when standing behind the mob (within 45 degrees, roughly), it is 2.45.

[Suiram]

Bit of a fun fact about regurgitation if anybody cares that I figured out today, and never saw mentioned anywhere: the base damage multiplier (before INT difference is calculated) is normally 1.83, but when standing behind the mob (within 45 degrees, roughly), it is 2.45.

How many times did you do that (cast from behind to get the same value), because I also noticed the difference in base damage (it's been mentioned here a couple times) but I couldn't figure out what caused it. I tried facing different directions, moving in and out to different distances, checking if it was related to night or day game time, and I never noticed a pattern, and just figured it was a coin-toss.