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  1. #4581
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok View Post
    I'd do it myself but my server fails at taking over stronghold zones so far
    Hey, I tried! Only so much a lone PLD/DNC can do!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dammerung View Post
    HP 1082 no hat (+15hp ring equipped): 541 heat breath

    HP 1082 hat+1: 595 heat breath

    so that's still just a 10% increase
    Bah oh well, tnx for testin anyways

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    could you suggest a good feet piece for TPing (Rutter on spells, CA)?
    working to get Denali/Homam, so in the meanwhile I was thinking of Dusk Feet or maybe Enkidu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ddboner View Post
    I have a quick question.

    I know that Skill 300 -> D69. What I'm wondering is (please disregard the AF2 hat stats) since I'm not going to push into the next damage tier is there any point to adding more skill via merits when I'm @ 301 now?

    Thanks,

    The next tier is on Skill 310, which is attainable by 7 merits + Magus Jubbah + Mirage Keffiyeh

  5. #4585
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomino View Post
    could you suggest a good feet piece for TPing (Rutter on spells, CA)?
    working to get Denali/Homam, so in the meanwhile I was thinking of Dusk Feet or maybe Enkidu?
    Dusk or Enkidu work fine. Or if you're pressed on cash. Tabin Boots +1 are pretty good since they give +3 Accuracy.

  6. #4586
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    Unlocked Exapiacion the other day but was curious to know of a proper gear setup for it if anyone can help me out on that. Tried my Vorpal Blade setup but doesn't seem to work as well with that type of WS.

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    This is the setup I currently use:

    Main: Fragarach
    Sub: Perdu
    Ammo: Olibanum Sachet
    Head: Voyager Sallet (waiting for Morr head 35 to drop, Maat's cap and Gnadbhod's helm are better though)
    Neck: Soil Gorget
    Earrings: Brutal + Suppanomimi(Triumph is probably better than the latter)
    Body: Morrigan
    Hands: Enkidu's
    Rings: Flame x2
    Cape: HQ Amemet, there are better options though
    Waist: Warwolf
    Legs: Mirage (waiting for Morr legs 25 to drop off BC)
    Feet: Denali

  8. #4588
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevex View Post
    This is the setup I currently use:
    Main: Fragarach
    Sub: Perdu
    Ammo: Olibanum Sachet
    Head: Voyager Sallet (waiting for Morr head 35 to drop, Maat's cap and Gnadbhod's helm are better though)
    Neck: Soil Gorget
    Earrings: Brutal + Suppanomimi(Triumph is probably better than the latter)
    Body: Morrigan
    Hands: Enkidu's
    Rings: Flame x2
    Cape: HQ Amemet, there are better options though
    Waist: Warwolf
    Legs: Mirage (waiting for Morr legs 25 to drop off BC)
    Feet: Denali
    for?

    setup seems like a mix of different purposes

  9. #4589
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lonewind View Post
    for?

    setup seems like a mix of different purposes
    Expiacion is STR INT mods so this setup loading STR accu (and INT where he can)

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    I say the gear for Expiacion doens't matter because it's a shitty and almost completely useless WS anyway.

    (just use the same gear you use for savage blade)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok View Post
    I say the gear for Expiacion doens't matter because it's a shitty and almost completely useless WS anyway.

    (just use the same gear you use for savage blade)
    Far from useless.. damage isn't that bad and self-darkness w/ Vcleave is very good.

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    It just CA Vertical Cleave can produce wide range of number.
    Sometimes I can only do 800ish on Aht Urhgan Attercop, sometimes it can spike up to 1200ish.

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    I prefer Savage Blade + Disseverment because sometimes it's the difference between no DMG and ~700DMG depending on the mob.

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    The only thing Expiacion > VertCleave offers over savage > disseverment is the ability to MB dark/earth spells. If you have a situation where you need that then more power to you I suppose <_<

    Peronally, for ice MB (the only reason i'd ever need darkness SC) I'd rather be using savage > disseverment because there is much less chance of the spell missing and completely wasting your skillchain.

    I guess if you really dont want poison on whatever you're fighting you could opt for darkness...but yea, I said it is almost useless because there are very few sitiuations where I would opt to use it.

    and the gear you wear for it, honestly, since you are doing it purely for the skillchain purpose, I'd even say just wear full acc gear so you dont miss the damn thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok View Post
    The only thing Expiacion > VertCleave offers over savage > disseverment is the ability to MB dark/earth spells. If you have a situation where you need that then more power to you I suppose <_<

    Peronally, for ice MB (the only reason i'd ever need darkness SC) I'd rather be using savage > disseverment because there is much less chance of the spell missing and completely wasting your skillchain.

    I guess if you really dont want poison on whatever you're fighting you could opt for darkness...but yea, I said it is almost useless because there are very few sitiuations where I would opt to use it.

    and the gear you wear for it, honestly, since you are doing it purely for the skillchain purpose, I'd even say just wear full acc gear so you dont miss the damn thing.
    I like the new WS and the ability to selfchain Darkness. My usual SBs are the same damage as Expaicain, and same for Disserverment and VC when I use /NIN.

    /THF is a different story. If I'm lucky enough to not pull hate after Expiacion, a CASATA VC will make something very dead or me dead.

  16. #4596
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    I usually only use self Darkness for Nyzul, but my static has an Apoc and Bravura, for the bosses or high HP mobs/NMs I just open self darkness or self light for the double light/darkness. Otherwise I usually only self Darkness because I'm bored.

    Gear I use for /nin WSs and Spells is:

    Weapons: Perdu Hanger/Wing Sword+1
    Ammo: Olibanum Sachet
    Head: Enkidu's Cap
    Neck: Fortitude Torque
    Ear: Suppa/Minuet Earring
    Body: Magus Jubbah+1
    Hands: Enkidu's Mittens
    Rings: Rajas/Flame
    Back: Cuch. Mantle
    Waist: Warwolf
    Pants: Enkidu's Subligar
    Feet: Denali Gamashes

    With that gear my Expiacions are equal or higher then my SBs, but they are far more consistent.

  17. #4597
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    VC does more than disseverment and when darkness is mirrored it is far better.

    @Durden
    Using same gear for WS as spells is dumb, since they require different things.

  18. #4598
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    Then please point out whats wrong with my gear, since the gear i choose works great for me.

    Edit: I only use that gear for Disseverment Frenetic Rip Cannonball and Vertical Cleave, I have different sets of gear for other spells

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    Why no Brutal for Expiacion?

    edit: Unless wiki is wrong and it's a magical WS, then nevermind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durden View Post
    Then please point out whats wrong with my gear, since the gear i choose works great for me.

    Edit: I only use that gear for Disseverment Frenetic Rip Cannonball and Vertical Cleave, I have different sets of gear for other spells
    Because WS require ATK and BLU spells do not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marcicus View Post
    Why no Brutal for Expiacion?

    edit: Unless wiki is wrong and it's a magical WS, then nevermind.
    Brutal works.

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