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  1. #4801
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    Some spells are noticiably less accurate than others no matter how good your m.acc setup is.
    I occasionally duo/trio Cactrot Rapido as BLU for the TP reduction spells and Light of Penance gets resisted something like 75% of the time(do cactuars resist light?) while Feather Tickle and Lowing regularly land.

    Lowing if unresisted lasts pretty long, definitely more than Enervation; I would say around 60s.
    Have yet to try it on Salvages bosses though, that sure would be nice if it lands.

    My setup is:

    Main: Staff
    Sub: Bugard+1
    Ammo: Phantom
    Head: AF2
    Neck: nothing worth mentioning, hope they add some non-56k IS worth m.acc neck piece...
    Earrings: Loq/Magnetic
    Body: AF1
    Hands: Morrigan
    Rings: Balhran's/Tamas(no Omega yet)
    Back: AF2
    Waist: Penitent's
    Legs: AF2
    Feet: Denali

  2. #4802
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    I haven't really noticed a difference using a Magical Accuracy build from eyeballing, but I use one just in case. Missing a few slots of with potential Magic Acc though.

    input /equip head "Mirage keffiyeh";
    input /equip ear1 "Magnetic Earring";
    input /equip ear2 "Loquacious earring";
    input /equip body "Magus Jubbah";
    input /equip hands "Morrigan's cuffs";
    input /equip ring1 "Insect Ring";
    input /equip ring2 "Omega Ring";
    input /equip back "Mirage mantle";
    input /equip waist "Swift Belt";
    input /equip legs "Errant Slops";
    input /equip feet "Homam Gambieras";
    input /echo Blue Mage: Magical Acc

  3. #4803
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    Main: Staff
    Ammo:
    Sub: Bugard+1
    Head: Mirage
    Neck: lieutenant's gorget
    Earrings: loq
    Body: Magus +1
    Hands: Yigit /no Morrigan's yet
    Rings: Balrahn's/ no omega yet
    Back: prism / no mirage yet
    Waist: Penitent's Rope
    Legs: Mirage + 1
    Feet: Denali

  4. #4804
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sho View Post
    Yar, I be the lazyman's BLU in Dynamis. Usually shit dies too fucking fast-- by the time I engage the mob, I can't do shit. So rather than idly running about, I sub SAM, stack on all my BLU DD spell gear (mostly STR), load up on STR spells + Vertical Cleave, then Meditate -> Spam Vertical Cleave on everything. Usually Cleaves land on everything for about 800~1500 dmg with CA (400~800 without), and mirrors Darkness for the same amount if I happen to chance it after Asuran Fists from random MNK.

    When we fight a THF or a PLD that has 2hred, the same gear doubles as a mini-Heat Breath build; HB lands unresisted for 700 dmg a pop usually, knocking off whatever HP the mob has left. Then I set Actinic Burst for the odd MNK and NIN mob.

    It's fun shit lol.


    I'm not gonna even begin to pick this apart......but go back....read....then check your skillchain chart......now go outside with a MNK and VC after Asuran Fists.

  5. #4805
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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaosykotik View Post
    I'm not gonna even begin to pick this apart......but go back....read....then check your skillchain chart......now go outside with a MNK and VC after Asuran Fists.
    Ehh? Must have been SAM and Tachi: Gekko instead. The main premise is to show that BLU/SAM works well in Dynamis for me, not a random Darkness SC I happened to forget who opened at that moment. Now shut the fuck up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sho View Post
    Ehh? Must have been SAM and Tachi: Gekko instead. Now shut the fuck up.
    Awww....think someone got their feelings hurt for looking like a noob.

  7. #4807
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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaosykotik View Post
    Awww....think someone got their feelings hurt for looking like a noob.
    Not really, and you look more retarded... using so many ellipsis... like an emo idiot............................................. ......

  8. #4808
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    When have you been in dyna as /sam lol? if youre on blu i usually see you blu/nin o.o

  9. #4809
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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draggy View Post
    When have you been in dyna as /sam lol? if youre on blu i usually see you blu/nin o.o
    What the hell? I haven't used /NIN in like 4 months in there, yo. >.> Me thinks you need to stop playing BLM so much, melee or something with us losers in the back.

    Edit: Lookie me saying 9 like a silly.

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    I am being serious lol, i think if i saw you there as /sam i would remember it coz i would ask wtf you are doing subbing /sam

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sho View Post
    Ehh? Must have been SAM and Tachi: Gekko instead. The main premise is to show that BLU/SAM works well in Dynamis for me, not a random Darkness SC I happened to forget who opened at that moment. Now shut the fuck up.
    BLU/SAM is a joke.....looks kinda nice with that meditate (every 3 min) but in all honesty you're better off building TP as /nin - /thf for SATA or even /blm /rdm (/mnk for xarc) and just nuke. What you're doing is totally a waste of space in dynamis.... gogo Seiga Third Eye 700 dmg Heat Breath lol

    Now Shut the fuck up and go learn how to actually play the job and take your ass back to the newbie thread k thx.

    P.S. it's Disseverment that makes SC with Asuran Fists...which would land a lot more as /sam than a 1 hit VC (/thf ftw)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaosykotik View Post
    BLU/SAM is a joke.....looks kinda nice with that meditate (every 3 min) but in all honesty you're better off building TP as /nin - /thf for SATA or even /blm /rdm (/mnk for xarc) and just nuke. What you're doing is totally a waste of space in dynamis.... gogo Seiga Third Eye 700 dmg Heat Breath lol

    Now Shut the fuck up and go learn how to actually play the job and take your ass back to the newbie thread k thx.

    P.S. it's Disseverment that makes SC with Asuran Fists...which would land a lot more as /sam than a 1 hit VC (/thf ftw)
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  13. #4813
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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaosykotik View Post
    BLU/SAM is a joke.....looks kinda nice with that meditate (every 3 min) but in all honesty you're better off building TP as /nin - /thf for SATA or even /blm /rdm (/mnk for xarc) and just nuke. What you're doing is totally a waste of space in dynamis.... gogo Seiga Third Eye 700 dmg Heat Breath lol

    Now Shut the fuck up and go learn how to actually play the job and take your ass back to the newbie thread k thx.

    P.S. it's Disseverment that makes SC with Asuran Fists...which would land a lot more as /sam than a 1 hit VC (/thf ftw)
    Why are you still talking? lol.

    Yar, I be the lazyman's BLU in Dynamis. Usually shit dies too fucking fast-- by the time I engage the mob, I can't do shit. So rather than idly running about, I sub SAM, stack on all my BLU DD spell gear (mostly STR), load up on STR spells + Vertical Cleave, then Meditate -> Spam Vertical Cleave on everything. Usually Cleaves land on everything for about 800~1500 dmg with CA (400~800 without), and mirrors Darkness for the same amount if I happen to chance it after Asuran Fists from random MNK.

    When we fight a THF or a PLD that has 2hred, the same gear doubles as a mini-Heat Breath build; HB lands unresisted for 700 dmg a pop usually, knocking off whatever HP the mob has left. Then I set Actinic Burst for the odd MNK and NIN mob.

    It's fun shit lol.
    Maybe I should have also posted that I never get a chance to position behind mobs for SATA because they die too fast or something. Also reasons why I don't /NIN at all, but you weren't listening anyways, rite?

    Also that is to say I don't do /SAM for everything; I should have said "usually" there as well. Oh well my mistake, can't fix a quote I made a few days ago~ Also /BLM sucks in Xarcabard for the most part.

    I'm still surprised you are dragging shit out as if you know how I play my BLU, you must be bored. Or a Troll, like Kaslo mentioned. An emo troll that uses ellipsis....................... XD

  14. #4814
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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draggy View Post
    I am being serious lol, i think if i saw you there as /sam i would remember it coz i would ask wtf you are doing subbing /sam
    Ask Shanny, or Pabby, or IE, or Gav, or like most ppl in the melee group, hun Hell you could even ask ppl like Matito, Aeonknight, or Glenn or all other random ppl not in LS wondering why I'm using /SAM, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sho View Post
    Why are you still talking? lol.



    Maybe I should have also posted that I never get a chance to position behind mobs for SATA because they die too fast or something. Also reasons why I don't /NIN at all, but you weren't listening anyways, rite?

    Also that is to say I don't do /SAM for everything; I should have said "usually" there as well. Oh well my mistake, can't fix a quote I made a few days ago~ Also /BLM sucks in Xarcabard for the most part.

    I'm still surprised you are dragging shit out as if you know how I play my BLU, you must be bored. Or a Troll, like Kaslo mentioned. An emo troll that uses ellipsis....................... XD

    Guess you don't read much either because I stated /mnk for xarc, and from what I've read I know how you play your blu.....very badly. Maybe your little butt buddy who attempted to insult me can teach you how to play it better.

  16. #4816
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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaosykotik View Post
    Guess you don't read much either because I stated /mnk for xarc, and from what I've read I know how you play your blu.....very badly. Maybe your little butt buddy who attempted to insult me can teach you how to play it better.
    Hmmm yeah, I'll just ignore you now. Have a great day :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sho View Post
    Hmmm yeah, I'll just ignore you now. Have a great day :D
    Ya...you do that, gives you more time to focus on how blu/sam fails.

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    Well if you guys are taking out mobs as fast as you claim, then it would be better to sub NIN for damage mitigation. You can still spam Vertical Cleave and DD just as you would with SAM. The only reason to sub SAM would be if you're lacking TP by the time CA is up. However, since your group flies by the mobs quickly, it wouldn't make any sense to attempt a self-skillchain since it would be interrupted anyways. I can understand that having the extra TP from meditate would boost your Vertical Cleave damage if you don't WS, but I think that mitigating damage and using Vorpal Blade + Vertical Cleave would be better in the situation you described

  19. #4819
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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    Well if you guys are taking out mobs as fast as you claim, then it would be better to sub NIN for damage mitigation. You can still spam Vertical Cleave and DD just as you would with SAM. The only reason to sub SAM would be if you're lacking TP by the time CA is up. However, since your group flies by the mobs quickly, it wouldn't make any sense to attempt a self-skillchain since it would be interrupted anyways. I can understand that having the extra TP from meditate would boost your Vertical Cleave damage if you don't WS, but I think that mitigating damage and using Vorpal Blade + Vertical Cleave would be better in the situation you described
    That would be one problem-- a lacking in TP for self SC. Usually Third Eye mitigates damage for me as well however; I macro in Terra's Staff so I can benefit Seigan. By the time the mob actually gets a shot or two in, he's dead. And honestly the only time mobs takes us while for our LS to kill is if it's a THF or a PLD in Bastok/Windurst (Why I mentioned the Heat Breath). Everything else is raped within moments, lol.

    I'll run it back with Vorpal + VC, and see how that is, thanks for the tip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sho View Post
    That would be one problem-- a lacking in TP for self SC. Usually Third Eye mitigates damage for me as well however; I macro in Terra's Staff so I can benefit Seigan. By the time the mob actually gets a shot or two in, he's dead. And honestly the only time mobs takes us while for our LS to kill is if it's a THF or a PLD in Bastok/Windurst (Why I mentioned the Heat Breath). Everything else is raped within moments, lol.

    I'll run it back with Vorpal + VC, and see how that is, thanks for the tip.
    Could just Expiation - VC for your own Darkness and get a dmg boost..(since we know how you love to follow that Asuran Fists so much) then use Eyes on Me or Firespit for a 1k+ nuke for less mp rather than just the 700 dmg from a high cost Heat Breath

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