Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Yugl]

where are the tests showing +30 base defense, -5str and +3vit are better?

Ask Villian for those. He made a post regarding this on KI in the Cannonball thread. If you choose 5 STR > 3 VIT and 30DEF, you might as well ask for Double STR Etudes > Minne 2x for Cannonball while you're at it.

[fantasticdan]

Pretty nice sword in the update:

Koggelmander
DMG:43 Delay:224
STR+4 DEX+4
Enhances "Vermin Killer"
effect Vs. vermin: Critical hit rate +7%

Only problem I see is that it will push you under hitting 100tp in the same number of swings with the standard gear setup.

Antica Ring
Ninjutsu skill +2 Blue Magic skill +2

Also this shitty ring. Shouldn't allow you to hit another damage tier on physical spells, and should be less macc than just +5 stat rings, on top of the loss of potency on nukes. Only spell I could see this being used for is drainkiss, since it's primarily (purely?) based on blue skill, but I can't imagine it's worth the inventory -1 for potentially gaining 1 extra mp.

[Alibeemac]

Need a quick bit of advice. Had a browse through the thread but its huge so sorry if I missed this

I am trying to decide which would be a better head piece for my Cannonball setup. I got to use my BLU for the first time the other day on Ixion and try alternating my 2 choices but couldnt really get enough CB's off to get a good enough conclusion. Highest I could hit was 1288ish with most being around 1k :< Didn't get to 2hr before it died. Made me wanna go get my SAM out ~.~

Anyway here is my setup and any advice would be great. (I have 11 jobs btw so a couple of gear slots I am aware has some better pieces but with the little inv space I work with I am trying to double up on some gear).

Weapon: Ifrit's Blade
Sub: Genbu's Shield
Ranged: Bibiki Seashell
Head: Orc Helm or AF2 Hat
Neck: Justice Torque
Ears: Bushinomimi/Minuet (Will try to buy Triumph one day)
Body: AF1 (Stupid Limbus drop rates)
Hands: Alky
Rings: 2 x Flame
Back: Cerb Mantle (Should upgrade to Smilodon+1 really)
Waist: Warwolf Belt
Legs: Enkidu's
Feet: Rutters

My question relates to the head mostly... I have 0 Blu merits as I have 8 Enfeebling/8 Elemental which I won't drop. I think I am right to assume that with 276 Base plus 15 from AF Body and 5 from AF2 Hat I won't hit next dmg Tier? Is this correct? The math in this game has never been my strong point. So the +5 Skill on Head won't really matter? If so should I be using Orc Helm then for +6 STR on CB? Or will the +5 skill still help a bit stack with the +VIT?

[Dammerung]

Ask Villian for those. He made a post regarding this on KI in the Cannonball thread. If you choose 5 STR > 3 VIT and 30DEF, you might as well ask for Double STR Etudes > Minne 2x for Cannonball while you're at it.

Not buying it with brave grip.

[Yugl]

There haven't been any updated tests since the introduction so you may be right about that. I will test it at Odin today (Provided we have the numbers to fight him).

[Kaslo]

Actually with AF head that new ring does make it to the next tier doesn't it:

With AF Head No Ring: 312 = 71.64 which floors to 71
With AF Head and Ring: 314 = 72.08 which floors to 72

[kenshyn]

Pretty nice sword in the update:

Koggelmander
DMG:43 Delay:224
STR+4 DEX+4
Enhances "Vermin Killer"
effect Vs. vermin: Critical hit rate +7%

Only problem I see is that it will push you under hitting 100tp in the same number of swings with the standard gear setup.

Antica Ring
Ninjutsu skill +2 Blue Magic skill +2

Also this shitty ring. Shouldn't allow you to hit another damage tier on physical spells, and should be less macc than just +5 stat rings, on top of the loss of potency on nukes. Only spell I could see this being used for is drainkiss, since it's primarily (purely?) based on blue skill, but I can't imagine it's worth the inventory -1 for potentially gaining 1 extra mp.

I must have this sword lol since sandworm is like impossible to get on my server this baby looks sweet as hell.

[fantasticdan]

Actually with AF head that new ring does make it to the next tier doesn't it:

With AF Head No Ring: 312 = 71.64 which floors to 71
With AF Head and Ring: 314 = 72.08 which floors to 72

Where are you getting that from? I was under the impression the next tier should be at 319 skill?

[Kaslo]

The D formula from VZX, floor(Blue Magic Skill*0.11)*2 + 3

but looking again I floored at the wrong spot my bad,

312 = floor(34.42)*2 +3 = 71
314 = floor(34.54)*2 +3 = 71

So yeah it doesn't raise to next tier, and yeah doing some algebra 319 is where the next tier is.

Once again sorry, was too early for me to be doing math

[Yvonne]

Is Koggelmander R/EX btw? It's a pretty cool freebie if it made available to everyone.

[Nerull]

I must have this sword lol since sandworm is like impossible to get on my server this baby looks sweet as hell.

Screw Fragglerock now, imo. Higher DPS, and STR+4 DEX+4 appeals to me more than 1 more base damage, acc+4, and 1 less swing to 100 TP. Even if I'm wrong, it's certainly a close enough call that I'm not going to bother getting a Frag anymore if this sword is at all easy to obtain.

Anyone else have thoughts on the subject?

[fantasticdan]

str +4 is better than 1 base dmg on it's own, and 4 dex is 2 accuracy, so you're only losing 2 acc, on a job that's usually using sushi anyway. Perdu/cockmangler looks to be the best combo in the game excluding mythic weapon.

And yes it's r/ex according to bgwiki.

[VZX]

Actually with AF head that new ring does make it to the next tier doesn't it:

With AF Head No Ring: 312 = 71.64 which floors to 71
With AF Head and Ring: 314 = 72.08 which floors to 72

flooring is always calculated at every step. except when you're multiplying integer with integer, which give you the same result if you don't floor it.
floor(314*.11)*2 + 3 = 71

EDIT: bleh, late

Koggelmander is awesome, I hope it's not that hard for obtaining it.

[Mirya]

I have this bad feeling that SE will design some annoying BC with a poor drop rate for these "crits vs" weapons a la Shiva's Shotel.

[kenshyn]

str +4 is better than 1 base dmg on it's own, and 4 dex is 2 accuracy, so you're only losing 2 acc, on a job that's usually using sushi anyway. Perdu/cockmangler looks to be the best combo in the game excluding mythic weapon.

And yes it's r/ex according to bgwiki.

My new cannonball sword when I can find this sucker

[Sabishii]

The antica ring, it's a damned kick in the teeth, completely useless.

1) It's a ring, which would replace something more useful, like a Rajas Ring or any other stat+ ring.
2) It's only +2 blue magic and ninjitsu, so it won't give any effect on magic, 2 skill won't affect damage or utsu interruption rate. Are they kidding us? If it was like +5 blue magic skill and +5 ninjitsu skill on an EARRING, I'd snatch that up right away.

SE must be out of their gourd when they thought up that ring. Unless maybe there's a hidden effect? Like magic interruption rate -%?

[Yvonne]

SE must be out of their gourd when they thought up that ring. Unless maybe there's a hidden effect? Like magic interruption rate -%?

This is SE, remember? lol

Either way, I'm all for free gear.

[Jones]

My new cannonball sword when I can find this sucker

All those "Killer+Crit" weapons to me scream MMM rewards for completing a "vermin" or "plantoid" maze.

Either way, I do hope they are fairly easy to get for BLU's sake.

[Villian]

I would still stick to my wing+1 for cannonball, however that is one sexy sword for none cannonball. What will happen to my beast slayer if I get one in the future? ; ;

[Dimmauk]

I would still stick to my wing+1 for cannonball, however that is one sexy sword for none cannonball. What will happen to my beast slayer if I get one in the future? ; ;

Mine will probably end up in storage with my Dissector lol.