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  1. #501
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    Quote Originally Posted by Battosi
    I was pretty certain blue/thf would be better Joe, but I want to test every aspect of blue. Btw found a new combo for auto refresh and it only cost 9 points. You need 75 to get though. Actinic Burst+Plasma Charge.

  2. #502
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moochi
    Quote Originally Posted by Battosi
    I was pretty certain blue/thf would be better Joe, but I want to test every aspect of blue. Btw found a new combo for auto refresh and it only cost 9 points. You need 75 to get though. Actinic Burst+Plasma Charge.
    lol oops, reading skills for the loss. thanks

    that is pretty sexy

  3. #503
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razz
    Quote Originally Posted by Battosi
    That 2mp a tick is a rumor, just tested it and its only 1 MP a tick so you're better off with Antinic burst+ Plasma charge
    Only those 2 give auto refresh trait?
    From: http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/blue.m ... raits.html

    Auto Refresh:
    Stinking Gas (44): 1 Point
    Frightful Roar (50): 2 Points
    Selfdestruct (50): 2 Points
    Cold Wave (52): 1 Point
    Light of Penance (58): 2 Points
    Voracious Trunk (64): 3 Points
    Actinic Burst (74): 4 Points
    Plasma Charge (75): 4 Points

    Autorefresh requires 8 or more points from the above.

  4. #504
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    Stinking Gas (44): 1 Point
    Frightful Roar (50): 2 Points
    Selfdestruct (50): 2 Points
    Light of Penance (5Cool: 2 Points
    Voracious Trunk (64): 3 Points
    Stinking Gas is 2.
    Frightful Roar is 3.
    Self-Destruct is 3.
    Light of Penance is 5.
    Voracious Trunk is 4.

  5. #505
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    afaik the listed values are not the blue magic equip numbers(I'm assuming that's what you posted), but the points needed to make combinations that provide auto refresh, which explain the various combos which have been discovered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrObvious
    afaik the listed values are not the blue magic equip numbers(I'm assuming that's what you posted), but the points needed to make combinations that provide auto refresh, which explain the various combos which have been discovered.
    Ah, that makes sense.

  7. #507
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moochi
    Quote Originally Posted by DrObvious
    afaik the listed values are not the blue magic equip numbers(I'm assuming that's what you posted), but the points needed to make combinations that provide auto refresh, which explain the various combos which have been discovered.
    Ah, that makes sense.
    It does? I don't get it.

    anyway, if anyone is seriously struggling on frenetic rip, there is a quest NM that spams it at around 20%, maybe you could try that.

    I myself am almost 67, can't wait to try out Diamond hide, but I wonder, how long does the stoneskin effect last for and, if I stack on MND how much damage can I absorb?

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    They all have invisible values and if you combine those abilites and get a total of 8 points you will get Auto-Refresh.

    I finally got Frentic Rip yesterday. Took me roughly 10 hours and 3 Frenetic Rips. Atm I'm with 2 other BLU's trying to get Diamondhide and Enervation. We have killed about 40 Trolls and they use both skills usually once a fight since Battosi is here with a Kraken Club. Me and the other BLU got Diamondhide so far and the 3rd got Enervation. These trolls are VT and it makes me think that the higher a mob conc the harder it is to get spells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moochi
    They all have invisible values and if you combine those abilites and get a total of 8 points you will get Auto-Refresh.

    I finally got Frentic Rip yesterday. Took me roughly 10 hours and 3 Frenetic Rips. Atm I'm with 2 other BLU's trying to get Diamondhide and Enervation. We have killed about 40 Trolls and they use both skills usually once a fight since Battosi is here with a Kraken Club. Me and the other BLU got Diamondhide so far and the 3rd got Enervation. These trolls are VT and it makes me think that the higher a mob conc the harder it is to get spells.
    ah ok, well I think the harder the mob, the harder it is to learn a move from it. It took me around 25k worth of exp to learn feather tickle from lesser colibris, but much much less for frost breath. This game is random sometimes.

    Speaking of frost breath, is the damage based on remaining HP? I tried it out in qufim and it always did around half my max HP, is that a fluke or is it always like that?

  10. #510
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razz
    Speaking of frost breath, is the damage based on remaining HP? I tried it out in qufim and it always did around half my max HP, is that a fluke or is it always like that?
    Did you have SH on?

  11. #511
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    Memento Mori is kind of garbage.
    It has a longish cast time, 30 second duration, and 2 minute recast.

    I would estimate that MAB to be a decent boost (~20), but the fact that it is insanely cumbersome to get up before a skillchain goes off along with other JA and what have you (and let's not forget BLU magic resist rates,heh) makes it pretty worthless.

    On a side note though, it looks awesome as hell. How are the other 65+ buff/debuffs? Does Reactor Cool have a good duration? Spike Damage?

    Another thing I've noticed is that when I have WHM subbed solo as opposed to THF, my Magic Fruit cures a ton more HP. I realize MND probably helps to some extent, but 100 more points of curing? It seems like healing magic skill affects the potency of Magic Fruit even though it raises blue magic when you cast it. Could it be the same for elemental magic spells? My BLM isn't 37 yet so can't really test that..

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    Does Reactor Cool have a good duration? Spike Damage?
    Wanted to ask about this also.. Does Reactor Cool give both the defense up and spike damage, and if so does the defense boost stack with cocoon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kuno
    Quote Originally Posted by Razz
    Speaking of frost breath, is the damage based on remaining HP? I tried it out in qufim and it always did around half my max HP, is that a fluke or is it always like that?
    Did you have SH on?
    Yes, I had SH on.

  14. #514
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    reactor gives defense and ice spikes, the spikes don't last that long though. The defense boost is weaker then cocoon's

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    Okay so I got hysterical barrage today, and from what I can see, to make the Lamia remove their weapon, you must weaponskill as they are swinging their sword. Not sure if this is 100% correct but going by this method, it sped things up fast.

    Now even if you WS when they are striking you, they may not drop their weapon, BUT give it time and after a few rounds they eventually will, so basically it isnt 100% on the round that the WS was used.

    I need you people to test this further and prove me right or wrong, thx and good luck.

  16. #516
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    Can they resummon their weapon like imps?

    Btw, for imps.. I found SA+multi hit ws (used evisceration) made them drop weapon 100% of the time from my war friend. If we figured that out right away, learning Frenetic Rip wouldn't have taken more than 20 mins.. :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by liefe
    Can they resummon their weapon like imps?

    Btw, for imps.. I found SA+multi hit ws (used evisceration) made them drop weapon 100% of the time from my war friend. If we figured that out right away, learning Frenetic Rip wouldn't have taken more than 20 mins.. :/
    Never seen a Lamia re-equip it's weapon, thank god.

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    What's the lowest anyone here learned Magic Fruit? A level 55BLU and myself killed for almost 3 hrs and niether of us learned.

  19. #519
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koyangi
    What's the lowest anyone here learned Magic Fruit? A level 55BLU and myself killed for almost 3 hrs and niether of us learned.
    Got it at 53. You can learn up to 10 levels ahead, although I think that changes for level 60 and higher spells and you need to be within 5 levels.

    I've heard lots of people having problems learning Magic Fruit and Self-Destruct. Maybe some spells are harder than others. I had a couple stacks of pebbles trying to learn Fruit and Self-Destruct took 80+ bombs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FFXIFlux
    Quote Originally Posted by Koyangi
    What's the lowest anyone here learned Magic Fruit? A level 55BLU and myself killed for almost 3 hrs and niether of us learned.
    Got it at 53. You can learn up to 10 levels ahead, although I think that changes for level 60 and higher spells and you need to be within 5 levels.

    I've heard lots of people having problems learning Magic Fruit and Self-Destruct. Maybe some spells are harder than others. I had a couple stacks of pebbles trying to learn Fruit and Self-Destruct took 80+ bombs.
    Self-Destruct took 5-6 bombs, but damn this Magic Fruit >.> I'll gain a few more levels I guess.

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