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  1. #5361
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    Did a smallish video of me wandering around xarca s and fightin those new Cointeachs. Gotta just find a good camp
    Also noticed that they have some sorta of mdb, Magic hammer partially resisted. But overall very easy

    Youtube ~ Cointeach

    also the fast cast is very impressive paired with cosciales and loquacious

  2. #5362
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    I'm wondering if Fast Cast is worth 9Pts. Yes, Fast Cast is *VERY* nice to have (Especially for Utsu), but here's the current list:

    Blud
    Cocoon
    Chaotic Eye (Conserve MP)
    HB
    Refueling
    Frenetic Rip
    Hysteric Barrage
    CIV
    Disseverment
    Plasma Charge
    Actinic (Flash)
    Mantle (Conserve MP)

    That leaves 11pts. That doesn't even leave enough for Triumphant Roar + Sub-Zero Smash if you want the Fast Cast combo.

  3. #5363
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    Fast Cast would be situational and maybe not paired with Triumphant, Like when you would be tanking stuff or solo, 9 points are sure alot for other situations.

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    What I use for general purposes right now is...

    Head Butt
    Disseverment
    Frenetic Rip
    Hysteric Barrage
    Frost Breath
    Chaotic Eye
    Sub-zero Smash
    Triumphant Roar
    Bad Breath
    Magic Fruit
    Actinic Burst
    Plasma Charge
    Refueling if I'm soloing, Heat Breath if I'm not.

    50 SP total
    Auto-refresh, Conserve MP, Fast Cast, Accuracy Bonus, 1 or 2 breath spells.

    No sleep spells set though, which is annoying. I guess I can ditch T.Roar or H.Barrage if I really want to set sleep spells when soloing...

  5. #5365
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    For tanking spell set, though, it works out perfectly to be 50/50 set points unless you're fighting something where you can make use of one of the killer effects. (Auto-Ref, Cons. MP, Max HP, MDB, Fast Cast, and hate tools)

  6. #5366
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    Guess it's time I capped Assimilation

  7. #5367
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    To further elaborate on skillchaining, it looks like BLU is totally up the creek when it comes to this spell. No Sword or Club WS will produce a chain with Sub-zero Smash, I just checked every one. It's Fragmentation only.

  8. #5368
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    I'm really digging the Fast Cast... It puts me under 1 min on MP Drainkiss. o_O That's pretty freaking hawt. I just might even have to set this in meripos for faster recast timers on MP Drainkiss and DD spells, tbh. >_>

  9. #5369
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    If you need to cast MP drainkiss that often while meriting, you're doing it wrong.

    So far, what I know Triumphant Roar *doesn't give*

    I'm testing existing job traits, then I'll move on to see if it gives new ones (or, it might give nothing!).

    Defense Bonus
    Auto Refresh
    Conserve MP
    Max MP Boost
    Magic Attack Bonus
    Max HP Boost
    Resist Sleep
    Rapid Shot (thank god)
    Clear Mind
    Attack Bonus
    Accuracy Bonus
    Counter
    Auto Regen
    Store TP
    Magic Defense Bonus



    As for Sub Zero Smash testing:

    On bees outside Bastok

    with 60+4 STR (VIT 60+3, 64+4 DEX) and 292 skill

    SA- 691, 608, 556
    SACA- 922, 820, 890

    with 60+53 STR (VIT+14, 64+18 DEX) and 312 skill

    SA- 781, 780, 810
    SACA- 1055, 1029, 1072



    (Keep in mind I have max Enchainment merits)

  10. #5370
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    Granted I've only cast Sub-Zero Smash on the mobs that teach it and Gargoyles but I was hard pressed to break 200.

  11. #5371
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deemos View Post
    Did a smallish video of me wandering around xarca s and fightin those new Cointeachs. Gotta just find a good camp
    Also noticed that they have some sorta of mdb, Magic hammer partially resisted. But overall very easy

    Youtube ~ Cointeach

    also the fast cast is very impressive paired with cosciales and loquacious
    NW of Telecrystal (at least where it is in present) just W of ramp towards U. Range. There was 8-10 Cointeachs there.

  12. #5372
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    Has anyone tested casting Sub-Zero Smash when the enemy is behind you? Perhaps it gains a damage boost.

  13. #5373
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    Quote Originally Posted by zantes View Post
    NW of Telecrystal (at least where it is in present) just W of ramp towards U. Range. There was 8-10 Cointeachs there.
    Yup, on the way to the Castle. I'm not sure if they link though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimmauk View Post
    Yup, on the way to the Castle. I'm not sure if they link though.
    I was pulling them in Beaucedine and I can say, at the very least, they do not link by sound. >_>

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    Is Sub Zero Roar a Warcry-type bonus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP View Post
    Is Sub Zero Roar a Warcry-type bonus?
    Triumphant Roar*, is +15% attack for 1 minute, I believe.

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    lol brain fart. But does it stack with Warcry and such?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP View Post
    lol brain fart. But does it stack with Warcry and such?
    I would hope so, but Rampart does overwrite Saline coat, so I'm sure SE will fuck this up too.

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    Found this post on Alla,

    Has anyone checked to see if this stacks with Bezerk, Last Resort, or Warcry?


    Yes it does.

    Just playing around...with my normal attack set up

    437 att + courel sub = 503
    503 + triumphant roar = 568
    568 + berserk = 671
    671 + warcry = 697 grand total attack.


    /WAR just got really nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimmauk View Post
    Found this post on Alla,





    /WAR just got really nice.
    Well, sadly, attack is pretty useless for BLU. Unless they made Dissev and Frip enhanced by Atk, this isn't really that big of a bonus

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