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  1. #541
    Sea Torques
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razz
    Diamond Hide is made of awesome, but I have yet to test out warm up, seems to last around 3mins, giving both acc and eva but I'm not sure on the numbers. Batto/Bulk any idea?
    I found Warm-Up costs too much MP too keep it on all the time in exp. Just doesn't seem worth it when you use sushi and have decent Acc gear. Maybe if you were to use meat and rely more on your sword dmg. :/
    It also takes like 6 seconds to cast.

  2. #542
    Puppetmaster
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    if we are tpburning puks which is the case alot of the time now i keep warmup equipped but only use it on juriks and some mamools. its nice to keep the bonus there when you need it but takes alot of the bad aspects out since you dont have to sit for 6second cast every few min

  3. #543
    D. Ring
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    How awesome is it in TP burn pts?

  4. #544
    Bagel
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    Anyone done any testing with Frightful Roar? It definetly overwrites and is overwritten by Cocoon and Shell Guard, but does it actually lower def? I've only tried it in XP parties, but any time I've tried it on a high def mob, it's stayed high def after roar, but I can berserk and take mobs down to normal def no problem. Since roar from a taurus is 20% def down, you'd think you'd notice such a huge change on mobs, so I wonder what the blue mage version is actuallly doing.

  5. #545
    Chram
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    Quote Originally Posted by FFXIFlux
    Anyone done any testing with Frightful Roar? It definetly overwrites and is overwritten by Cocoon and Shell Guard, but does it actually lower def? I've only tried it in XP parties, but any time I've tried it on a high def mob, it's stayed high def after roar, but I can berserk and take mobs down to normal def no problem. Since roar from a taurus is 20% def down, you'd think you'd notice such a huge change on mobs, so I wonder what the blue mage version is actuallly doing.
    I've actually been thinking the same thing. With all the hype it was getting on these boards, in a few people's search comments and from Razz's POL messages, I was expecting something quite special and it's turned out to be a huge disappointment. I know to a certain extent range users have capped damage but mine absolutely doesn't move even if roar is on, not even a single point of damage seems to be added. My Slug Shots did 555 to Torama's (only Red Mage on seek didn't even have CoP let alone ToAU) before roar was put on and 555 after roar was put on. For 46MP and a supposed DEF-20% I'd expect to be peaking around the 600 mark.

    Eyes on Me is a pretty decent MB from what I saw. Red Lotus>Death Scissors>Eyes on Me was damn good.

  6. #546
    Hydra
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    Only problem with the magic damage moves is the horrid resist rate. Even with good int gear/pluto's my eyes on me were getting resisted even on MB really often. Granted, I didn't have threnody on them..but for EXP mobs should that really be necessary just to land an unresisted nuke from an A+ skilled job?

  7. #547
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    Forgive me if I didn't catch this earlier but I've decided to take up BLU and I saw this thread when the update came and now its a ridiculous 37 pages. Is there a list of all the magic Blue Mage can acquire and what level is the minimum to use it?

  8. #548
    The God Damn Kuno
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    Quote Originally Posted by liefe
    Only problem with the magic damage moves is the horrid resist rate. Even with good int gear/pluto's my eyes on me were getting resisted even on MB really often. Granted, I didn't have threnody on them..but for EXP mobs should that really be necessary just to land an unresisted nuke from an A+ skilled job?
    BLM have trouble nuking XP mobs till staves/af gloves (15 skill).

  9. #549
    Chram
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanatos
    Is there a list of all the magic Blue Mage can acquire and what level is the minimum to use it?
    eLeMeN's

    MysteryTour's

    FFXIclopedia's

  10. #550
    E. Body
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russta
    Quote Originally Posted by FFXIFlux
    Anyone done any testing with Frightful Roar? It definetly overwrites and is overwritten by Cocoon and Shell Guard, but does it actually lower def? I've only tried it in XP parties, but any time I've tried it on a high def mob, it's stayed high def after roar, but I can berserk and take mobs down to normal def no problem. Since roar from a taurus is 20% def down, you'd think you'd notice such a huge change on mobs, so I wonder what the blue mage version is actuallly doing.
    I've actually been thinking the same thing. With all the hype it was getting on these boards, in a few people's search comments and from Razz's POL messages, I was expecting something quite special and it's turned out to be a huge disappointment. I know to a certain extent range users have capped damage but mine absolutely doesn't move even if roar is on, not even a single point of damage seems to be added. My Slug Shots did 555 to Torama's (only Red Mage on seek didn't even have CoP let alone ToAU) before roar was put on and 555 after roar was put on. For 46MP and a supposed DEF-20% I'd expect to be peaking around the 600 mark.

    Eyes on Me is a pretty decent MB from what I saw. Red Lotus>Death Scissors>Eyes on Me was damn good.
    If you don't notice Roar's effect on your damage then something is wrong, but it definitely DOES lower the mob's defense, though it may not be 20% or it may need MND/austere staff to make it cap out but I definitely see an increase in overall damage when it is used.

    I think right now, almost all the magical debuff moves are not fully realised to be worthwhile because of:

    1. No AFs
    2. No merits
    3. No debuff gear for magical spells

    I believe once we have obtained all the above 3, our magical spells will become much more meaningful. As is now, I never use any of the elemental magic to nuke with, but like I say, once our AFs and merits are obtained, our playstyles will change along with the gear we use today.

  11. #551
    Hydra
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    Blah..seen Qutrub go through about 30 ws but no Spinal Cleave used..you gotta break weapon on these to make them use it? Any tips?

  12. #552
    Genoslut
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razz
    Diamond Hide is made of godliness, but I have yet to test out warm up, seems to last around 3mins, giving both acc and eva but I'm not sure on the numbers. Batto/Bulk any idea?
    fix'd

  13. #553
    Relic Horn
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    WHM/BLU tested Healing Wind again.

    Elv WHM with Noble and Apollostaff cured 216 HP. Equipped Blessed mitts (7MND) got it to 218HP.

  14. #554
    Hydra
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    na 75 blu on phoenix, probably best equipped accross a lot of servers. does really good dmg in exp party

  15. #555
    Relic Shield
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    Which swords is she wearing?

  16. #556
    Chram
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    Quote Originally Posted by nivlakian
    Which swords is she wearing?
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/262

    and

    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/265

    I'm assuming. Probably for the STR bonus. Still seem kinda like pointless HQs.

  17. #557
    The Dazzler
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    Quote Originally Posted by nivlakian
    Which swords is she wearing?
    Guessing wing sword+1 and not sure the offhand.

    Edit: outposted by Locke

  18. #558
    Hydra
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    the two swords they posted for the STR+6 not for the damage.

  19. #559
    Chram
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLegendaryCravy
    the two swords they posted for the STR+6 not for the damage.
    Ifrit's Blade
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/287

    Rich? Maybe. Smart? That's something entirely different. Tier 0 Goldsmithing Synth instead of an arguably better free Sword.

    Probably go with this too.
    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/6177

    Maybe.

    And if my LS liked doing really stupid unrewarding BCs...I'd use this.

    http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/8011

  20. #560
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    I'm going to dual wield dissector and Ifrit's blade.

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