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  1. #5841
    Puppetmaster
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    If people were really getting 20% magic dmg from Embrace yesterday, I think the matt boost is high at low moon and low at high moon, opposite of the att boost. I just got a 6% damage different on regurgitation at 52% moon. Att boost was around 7%. now, and under 1% with <10% moon.

  2. #5842
    Blue Magic is Best Magic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Villian View Post
    So do Animating Wail acts like haste spell or like dancer's haste samba? The description confuses me.

    edit: I think it acts like haste but I *hope* it acts like samba.
    It's the same description as refueling and when aura stolen its just haste.

  3. #5843
    CoP Dynamis
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    Tested out Leafstorm, no secondary mods whatsoever. fTP is 2.75, uses dINT (2.0 multiplier). Like other BLU nukes, MAB and staff bonus do affect it (but due to lack of secondary mods, BA doesn't enhance damage). Some quick estimates say it should be possible to push ~450ish damage with a good build against 70~80 INT targets.

  4. #5844
    Bagel
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    So with the addition of real haste, refresh and regen to BLU's arsenal the job's #1 issue seems to be about spell points now, even moreso than before.
    BLU is going to get something like 65 SP at 99 factoring merits I think?

  5. #5845
    Hydra
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    13 extra MP for 2 more minutes of duration than haste, thank you! Don't revive that blue tanking thread, it got terrible and many people were pretty closed minded about the idea. I've tanked the major HNM's and wyrms with blu and it's just like any other job tanking, keep hate consistently while while mitigating dmg with shadows or other reduction tools. My tanking gear can be seen here-
    http://www.ffxiah.com/player.php?id=325999#item_sets
    Actinic Burst
    Jettatura
    Blank Gaze
    Exhuviation
    Temporal Shift
    Magic Fruit

    I never thought to use poison breath, but great idea.

    The biggest issue lies in only being able to tank mobs without other mobs around them or pullable to a safe area and range of spells as the tanking ones only go to a distance of about 12.

  6. #5846
    Cerberus
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    Hmmm. Was really hoping for that 20% haste mentioned earlier... But 15% with 5 min duration sounds like 5% more than I'm used to getting. I'm always complaining of how Refueling is almost more of a curse than a blessing, since, yeah I always have at least 10% haste, but I never get the 15% haste from mages because they think I can haste myself. So that's still really nice.

  7. #5847
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    On topic of BLU tanking, does Diffusion cause the enmity of a spell to be multiplied by the number of players it lands on? Couldn't find the answer on wiki.

    EDIT: Nvm, the answer is on the exuvation page on wiki.

  8. #5848
    A. Body
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amok View Post
    On topic of BLU tanking, does Diffusion cause the enmity of a spell to be multiplied by the number of players it lands on? Couldn't find the answer on wiki.
    In terms of Exuviation yes, it is an incredible hate tool paired with Diffusion (the only real reason, for me, to even merit it once)

    Edit: nm you edited

  9. #5849
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    Just tested Cimicine Discharge:

    Before Discharge
    20:07:18
    30 hits
    20:09:17
    Delay = 3.9666sec/hit = ~238 delay

    After Discharge (MND=72 INT=62)
    20:11:39
    20:12:56
    17 hits
    Delay = 4.529sec/hit = ~271 delay
    = ~15% Slow

    After Discharge (MND=90, INT=80)
    20:17:20
    20:18:42
    18 hits
    Delay = 4.5555sec/hit = ~273 delay
    = ~15% slow

    Seems static at 15% slow.

  10. #5850
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    Just would like to confirm and add information. I attained Lv79 last night, and plan to be 80 sometime later this week.

    Animated Wail is indeed 15% haste, overwrites and is overwritten by Haste (the spell), but the BLU version lasts 5 minutes instead of 3.

    Battery Charge is indeed 4mp/tick, lasts the same as refresh, and is overwritten/overwrites Refresh. The thing to note: Refresh from a RDM = 150MP, Battery Charge self-service = 200MP (-50MP cost) = 150MP, so we don't need a RDM anymore (assuming we are willing to part with 3 blue magic points).

    Next, I found a new trait: Magic Burst Bonus by setting Cimicine Discharge and Leafstorm but this is fairly worthless in most cases.

    Lastly, just a speculation, seeing as Demoralizing Roar has pretty crappy stats, takes a lot of blue magic points, and is a fairly situational spell, I have a hunch that it might be one of the spells needed for the Dual Wield trait that SE hinted at (may require more than 2 spells but will be tested extensively)! If this is the case, we will need to rethink how to properly allocate our very limited supply of blue magic points!

  11. #5851
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    the Dual Wield trait that SE hinted at
    I don't think it exists; they gave it to DNC instead. Let's be honest, if I'm doing stuff for shits and giggles i.e. Campaign, I'm going to go /DNC and get it. If I'm doing some soloing i.e. Imps, sky farming I'll go /NIN and get it. The -only- viable time I won't have it would be as /SCH (aspir whore in campaign) and /RDM (convert), both of which are heavy on the MP regeneration, which I'd mainly use for spell spamming, less so sword thwacking.

    Not to mention Dual Wield I is only a 10% reduction in delay! Personally, I'd rather have the set points.

  12. #5852
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kegsay View Post
    Just tested Cimicine Discharge:

    Before Discharge
    20:07:18
    30 hits
    20:09:17
    Delay = 3.9666sec/hit = ~238 delay

    After Discharge (MND=72 INT=62)
    20:11:39
    20:12:56
    17 hits
    Delay = 4.529sec/hit = ~271 delay
    = ~15% Slow

    After Discharge (MND=90, INT=80)
    20:17:20
    20:18:42
    18 hits
    Delay = 4.5555sec/hit = ~273 delay
    = ~15% slow

    Seems static at 15% slow.
    Hmm. What's the duration?

  13. #5853
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    They were the times listed e.g. 20:17:20. Works out to be roughly 80 seconds which is really meh considering Filamented Hold is 20% for 90 seconds.

  14. #5854
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    Sorry, didn't catch that. Really disappointed then, don't forsee using it much.

    Reported DA trait via Demoralizing Roar + Acrid Stream, DW via Blazing Bound + Animated Wail. Trying to get some test results in on level of DW.

  15. #5855
    Blue Magic is Best Magic
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    Wow amazing

  16. #5856
    CoP Dynamis
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    Double attack too? Really nice, but we're really going to need more set points now.

  17. #5857
    xXNyteFyreXx420Sharingan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rena View Post
    Double attack too? Really nice, but we're really going to need more set points now.
    ^^^^^



    Still, nice. DA is hot, was hoping we'd get it. DW... we'll see.

  18. #5858
    The Once and Future Wamoura
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    You can 100% confirm that those combinations actually work? D:

  19. #5859
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    You can 100% confirm that those combinations actually work? D:
    I can't, no. I'm only 76 Katas of Caitsith is reporting these traits, trying to get data from him or Jar. If somebody else who's already at 80 can confirm it would be much appreciated, otherwise it's on their word.

    EDIT: Hence reported Daring to hope we get a good level of DW.

  20. #5860
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    Can you cast animated wail on other PT members? Also, if Diffusion is fully merited, it should allow for constant Hastega provided no one dies or gets dispelled. I supposed that moves BLU towards the healer category now (Though I would hate to redo my TII merits at this time...).

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