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  1. #5861
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    Because we can aoe haste that moves us to healer? Now that's some interesting logic on that one >.>.

    I haven't see anything about set points are we still at the old value?

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    Correct, still 45 (50 with Assimilation).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    Can you cast animated wail on other PT members? Also, if Diffusion is fully merited, it should allow for constant Hastega provided no one dies or gets dispelled. I supposed that moves BLU towards the healer category now (Though I would hate to redo my TII merits at this time...).
    5 minute duration means you could only keep it up half the time.

  4. #5864
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    Battery Charge doesn't count towards auto-refresh at all, just checked. Disappointing.

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    Waiting on confirmation from someone else to verify for you guys via post, but yes DA and DW are ours now.

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    Was hoping for a slow II in cimicine charge...bummer. What's the range/duration? Filamented hold is pretty close ranged. Also, I'll try to look into some of these enm values once I hit the levels if no one beats me to it. A decent enm might make it useful...

    Big question needing confirmation: Is Animating Wail still only self target? I would presume so. Since double attack needs only 3 more set points, that will probably become a pretty common DD combo. Refueling + Uppercut + Battle dance for 10 points, haste, and att bonus (and stats) is upgraded through AW + Blazing bound (better haste + double attack, 8 points)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aben View Post
    Was hoping for a slow II in cimicine charge...bummer. What's the range/duration? Filamented hold is pretty close ranged. Also, I'll try to look into some of these enm values once I hit the levels if no one beats me to it. A decent enm might make it useful...

    Big question needing confirmation: Is Animating Wail still only self target? I would presume so. Since double attack needs only 3 more set points, that will probably become a pretty common DD combo. Refueling + Uppercut + Battle dance for 10 points, haste, and att bonus (and stats) is upgraded through AW + Blazing bound (better haste + double attack, 8 points)
    Filamented Hold is Cone not AOE as this slow is...why they chose that is not slow II i dont know but meh. Animating wail is only self target sadly and 15%.

  8. #5868
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    AOE range is pretty big on the discharge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenshyn View Post
    Because we can aoe haste that moves us to healer? Now that's some interesting logic on that one >.>.

    I haven't see anything about set points are we still at the old value?
    Yep. Healer implies Haste in today's PT.

    @Night: That's lame; I thought it was a 5min recast for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    Yep. Healer implies Haste in today's PT.

    @Night: That's lame; I thought it was a 5min recast for some reason.
    I must be way different I thought healing implies Healer how much haste did a scholar have before this update????? But heck I don't even heal on dnc main at 75 lol.

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    So I plan to level BLU up to the 80 cap soon and Im trying to jog up some places where BLU would do good in EXP.

    Im thinking the camp in Glacier (S) (Glacial Imp, Cointeach) would be very ideal for BLU but what would an ideal sync level be? At 75 they are VT so in a party that might turn out to be low EXP/kill? Any ideas here?

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    Duo at 75 is good exp, duo at 76 is pretty brisk. Can chain very well there. EXP would definitely drop off after that though, some of them are only T at 76. I wouldn't bring a full party, but if you insisted I'd treat it like Mire camp.

    On that note, suggested solo/duo camps 77-80?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin sparthos View Post
    So I plan to level BLU up to the 80 cap soon and Im trying to jog up some places where BLU would do good in EXP.

    Im thinking the camp in Glacier (S) (Glacial Imp, Cointeach) would be very ideal for BLU but what would an ideal sync level be? At 75 they are VT so in a party that might turn out to be low EXP/kill? Any ideas here?
    BLU kills pink birds very well the big 3 own especially dissveserment and the pink birds have mp its the perfect target for blu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenshyn View Post
    I must be way different I thought healing implies Healer how much haste did a scholar have before this update????? But heck I don't even heal on dnc main at 75 lol.
    Nope. No haste makes your PT gimp! Though I will enjoy gimping my PTs until LV80 on SCH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenshyn View Post
    BLU kills pink birds very well the big 3 own especially dissveserment and the pink birds have mp its the perfect target for blu.
    Im fully aware of the boons of Colibri however every Colibri camp is overloaded so I was looking for a place a group of BLU could go and with refresh support clear out for good EXP/hr.

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    Sync to 75, and KRT is a decent option for a Blu burn. Or mix Mnks + Blus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin sparthos View Post
    Im fully aware of the boons of Colibri however every Colibri camp is overloaded so I was looking for a place a group of BLU could go and with refresh support clear out for good EXP/hr.
    Pretty much not gonna find an empty camp for the next few weeks lol ur question just asked about xp camps blus vs birds weak to piercing and skeletons weak to blunt blus will do very well still pink birds are our best targets lol....

  18. #5878
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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    So, Animating Wail + Double Attack Trait + Upgraded Antea in Offhand + Dual Wield Trait + XXX non-NIN sub + Haste Gear. Thanks SE!

    And in my own case Oct~Dec Tizona and Haste Samba too! It's like all of my Blue Mage dreams finally came true!

    Back to reality, maybe it might only be DWI, since DA was added as well. But hell if that doesn't help close the gap between spell castings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    Nope. No haste makes your PT gimp! Though I will enjoy gimping my PTs until LV80 on SCH.

    Lol I take a sch healing and a brd and cor and gimp my ass to 80 any day spell haste overrated with those 2 imho ...

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    Given DW is now almost 100% confirmed, does this change anything concerning BLU subjobs, or will standard events still be asking for /NIN?

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