Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Draylo]

All I read was, "wahhh I don't know shit about blu"

[Meian]

Reading isnt ur strong suit is it idiot refresh and haste doesn't fix the fact that 90% of what I worked hard to get is pretty useless retarded fuck.

Hmm

I want real useful spells that aren't gimped to f when we use them or take an entire mp pool for meh damage

I think everyone read it fine. May want to write better, here let me try for you:
"I don't have high damage spells with low MP cost that can rival Samurai and Warrior this update."

[kenshyn]

Dude I been doing blu since this was introduced it pretty much became my main from the day it was introduced just really getting old all I do is cast the same 3 - 4 spells and have farm countless hours of useless crappy spells that set useless crap. I like a magical spell that would do damage that isn't fed cause of the mp cost makes it inefficient vs the big 3 on 90% of what we do lets say big 5 /thf adds cannonball and V. Cleave to the mix.

Yeah give me Haste big whoppie I already get free haste from someone else lol and same with refresh big fing deal >.>.....

[Meian]

I like a magical spell that would do damage that isn't fed cause of the mp cost makes it inefficient vs the big 3 on 90% of what we do lets say big 5 /thf adds cannonball and V. Cleave to the mix.

Mind Blast
Eyes on Me
Regurgitation
Occasionally, Flame Breath

[Kyte]

[kenshyn]

Mind Blast
Eyes on Me
Regurgitation
Occasionally, Flame Breath

I have a gear set for each and pretty much the MP cost isn't cost effective and many cases unless the moon is full the numbers they generate damage wise are meh at best. Don't get me wrong I still love 2k+ cannonballs lol...

[kenshyn]

QFT lol very true except dancer in this update got the kitchen sink imho.

[Meian]

Actually, let me break this down a bit better than my last post.

Dude I been doing blu since this was introduced it pretty much became my main from the day it was introduced

So have I, not as much as my main now but it has a lot of work put to it

just really getting old all I do is cast the same 3 - 4 spells

And yet that is more than the various wses (in spell form) that other jobs use. Samurai, Gekko (and Rana for sc) is their bread and butter, as an example. Not to mention we have more variety of "used" spells than most other mages, used as in we still use today.

[quote]I like a magical spell that would do damage that isn't fed cause of the mp cost makes it inefficient vs the big 3 on 90% of what we do lets say big 5 /thf adds cannonball and V. Cleave to the mix. [quote]

Already mentioned the Mind Blast, Eyes on Me, Regurgitation, Flame Breath. You mentioned the moon, not sure what that has to do with these. Regardless, shows there are magic spells that are efficient in their situations. Should check out the past posts regarding them if you're having issues. If physical is better than whats wrong with that? If magical is better than physical then you'd complain about physical issues.

Yeah give me Haste big whoppie I already get free haste from someone else lol and same with refresh big fing deal >.>.....

You have a haste/refresh mule? That doesn't mean everyone else does. If you meant in a party-situation then good for you but not many other BLUs get this luxury since the job isn't seen quite well as opposed to other melee/tank/magic jobs (not going to argue about these beliefs since that'd derail). Also, solo-wise these are a great welcome.

Hey, 4 mp a tic > 3 mp a tic. No question there.


Edit:

QFT lol very true except dancer in this update got the kitchen sink imho.

So what? DNC was in need of something since it was more useful as a sub than a main (although SE did make them good subs to begin with). I was glad they got these updates like how SCH got theirs a while back. Not sure if the updates are enough to push them in more heavy endgame situations (their biggest issue) but maybe this will help until the later levels.

BLU was better off than DNC was prior to this update.

[Charismatic]

Hey, 4 mp a tic > 3 mp a tic. No question there.

You get the same amount of MP over the same period of time. Its the same even though you're getting more per tic (must factor in the cost of the spell itself).
The real benefit is that you get it regardless of who is there.

[Isiolia]

QFT lol very true except dancer in this update got the kitchen sink imho.

DNC was due for an update in general, not just a post-75 update.

Even with what they got, there are still some common complaints that were not addressed, such as shared waltz timers. While they got a lot of stuff, I don't feel like they got overpowered...and as mentioned, some of what they got serves to make the job an even better subjob.

[kenshyn]

You get the same amount of MP over the same period of time. Its the same even though you're getting more per tic (must factor in the cost of the spell itself).
The real benefit is that you get it regardless of who is there.

Yep yep but with set points at a premium and I hardly ever party without a rdm its meh unless solo but still not a big omg to me. Rdm is still my haste and refresh whore and nothing changes that much except lazy ass rdm that will expect me to cast it now lol.

[Draylo]

Hopeless..

[kenshyn]

DNC was due for an update in general, not just a post-75 update.

Even with what they got, there are still some common complaints that were not addressed, such as shared waltz timers. While they got a lot of stuff, I don't feel like they got overpowered...and as mentioned, some of what they got serves to make the job an even better subjob.

I am a dnc 75 and the changes to dnc are fin huge the ability to dual wield OAT weapons /sam to me is pure hawtness. Now the fact that erase and cure waltz is on the same timer that still blows chunks imho.

[Valisk]

Not all jobs are created equal. Get over it.

[Meian]

You get the same amount of MP over the same period of time. Its the same even though you're getting more per tic (must factor in the cost of the spell itself).
The real benefit is that you get it regardless of who is there.

? Is Refresh not 3 mp per tic, 40 mp cost, and total mp gained being 150 MP?
Battery Charge, 4 mp per tic, 50 mp cost, total mp gained being 200. -10 mp difference with Refresh makes it 190 in comparison?

Just noticed Battery Charge gives +10 mp for setting it but that shouldn't matter I guess after the first spell.

Edit: NM you're referring to you getting Refreshed, not yourself casting it since that is currently impossible this update

Regardless, not depending on others is always a good thing, /DNC is really true to that

[eva00r]

not only hopeless, retard too lol

[Kegsay]

the MP cost isn't cost effective and many cases unless the moon is full the numbers they generate damage wise are meh at best.

http://zoome.jp/rapakya/diary/57

Magical spells aren't always bad.

[Meian]

http://zoome.jp/rapakya/diary/57

Magical spells aren't always bad.

Pretty slick never seen this video before for some reason haha

Do hope to see some magical equip that can rival Morrigans for BLU =x

What song is that in the video btw?

[Kegsay]

Dunno, reminds me of a past FF so possibly a remix?

[Eklm]

I agree these spells do help are are a welcome addition, but this will not do much for us in party or endgame situations where a rdm is present.

If you are in a party with a competent rdm then there is no advantage to these new spells. You will be getting the same % haste and the same mp recovered by a rdm.

I see this more as more as a boost to our solo capacity as well as a boost to our role as a healer (We get alot of MP efficient healing spells and now with self refresh we could effectively solo heal a party) . These spells added to the one defining trait of our job.....flexability.