Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[kenshyn]

Don't go to wiki for damage formulas. Sanguine Blade is 30% STR, 50% MND secondary modifiers, primary mod is dINT with 2.0 multiplier, fTP of 2.75.

On an unrelated note, is anybody willing and able to help gather some data on Metallic Body? More specifically, I would like a few sub-300 skill (the lower the better) results. Either the previous formula is wrong, it changed after update, or it changes at a certain point. I have one that works well enough for all the values I have so far without being too clumsy, but I still have reason to doubt it. If you do help, please make note of both level and skill on casting.

If not the wiki where? Yeah they have a note in the update they changed Blue magic skills effect on spells just like se its always a secret lol.

Maximum values have been increased for certain enhancing magic, dark magic, and blue magic spells whose potency is commensurate with casting skill.

[Virtuosus]

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[Draylo]

Yes mine are around 1050ish with drink, posted my build earlier.

[Atoreis]

SB(not included af3):
head: Maat > Teal
Neck: Ugg > Prudance > Enlighted > other +2 int
Ears:Novio + moldy > moldy + mab+2 > moldy + Int+2 > Helenus + Cassandra
Body: Morrigan > Teal
Hands : yigit > morrigan
Rings: galdr > spiral > int+5 > Omega
Back: hecate > prism
Waist: Penitent
Legs: Morrigan > Teal
Feet: Morri and yigit very close

[Siphias]

I'm not really certain of how magical weaponskills calculate damage but I'm fairly certain STR and Sword Skill affect the damage of Sanguine Blade by upping the base damage. Sanguine Blade, as a Magic Weaponskill, has fairly constant damage. I'm pretty sure I saw this damage go up after gaining a point of sword skill. All buffs the same I was hitting 780-ish with the Ascetic's Potion up and after gaining sword skill it rose to 792.


And, while subbing RDM would increase the damage of Sanguine Blade by much more than any other job besides BLM, /NIN or /DNC setting the MAB trait will probably do more dmg in the long run with the increase to TP gain.

[Draylo]

So awesome, had dbl March and haste samba and fighters roll, pumping out 1050 SB every time at 100 to and then a nice 1480 efflux/CA gob rush, didn't have QB. The big 3 now big 5! PRETTY SURE I WAS OUT DDING MAJORITY SINCE I ALWAYS HAD HATE AND JUST SELF CURED WITH THE WS, SO AMAZING. damn caps on phone

[Virtuosus]

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[Draylo]

Idk convert, fast cast, powered SB etc is nice. If any downtime cast enspell they do 10 add effect for me each hit. If no dnc obviously.

[Siphias]

The thing is, with /RDM you lose DW II and gain Fast Cast, 2-3 points of INT, 4 MAB, and Convert. As /NIN you get shadows and DW II for faster TP gain.(Not to meniton DW III when the cap gets raised to 90.) As /DNC you get DW II as well as Aspir Samba.(Not to mention Haste Samba when the cap reaches 90.)

In my opinion, a current level capped BLU looking to max out damage on single Sanguine Blades would be best choosing /RDM. However, if you're looking to maximize Damage over Time with Sanguine Blade then /NIN and /DNC will most likely pull ahead due to the TP gain difference.

Now on overall damage done I submit no theory. As properly placed converts would allow more spell casts than either /NIN or /DNC thus increasing damage done from spells but most definitely lowering TP gained even further due to casting those spells.

[kenshyn]

So awesome, had dbl March and haste samba and fighters roll, pumping out 1050 SB every time at 100 to and then a nice 1480 efflux/CA gob rush, didn't have QB. The big 3 now big 5! PRETTY SURE I WAS OUT DDING MAJORITY SINCE I ALWAYS HAD HATE AND JUST SELF CURED WITH THE WS, SO AMAZING. damn caps on phone

That is just sick.....

[Rena]

Made a mistake earlier, maximum amount of Fantod's active at once is 10. MAB bonus can go up to 20 as well.

[Rena]

Efflux findings~

TP boost is 100 TP. During CA, this stacks with Enchainment merits; Enchainment has no effect without. Stacks with TP from CA, but you can not exceed 300 TP (no reaching Azure Lore values). It also has a less apparent effect of a 50% boost to the base damage derived from blue magic skill (not the values from WSC or fSTR). Did not yet test if this works for first hit only, or all.

[Siphias]

Is there anyone who could help me understand the logic behind being denied an Abyssea EXP group due to being dependent on MP?

No emotional arguments please. I truly want to understand why denying a BLU a DD slot because they are "Dependent on MP.", is, well... logical.

Mind you this is an Abyssea EXP party and as such the BLU in question will have access to temp items such as Lucid Ethers and Dusty Elixirs. As well as the fact that, in this scenario, the BLU has access to Battery Charge, Auto-Refresh, and the Mirage Jubbah.

Have any of you had experiences running out of MP in an Abyssea EXP group?

All of my experiences point towards a BLU not ever running out of MP unless they're doing something drastically wrong.

But I'd like to get other peoples input on this.


And remember, please attack the logic, not the person. I didn't lay into this guy with insults when this actually happened about 30 minutes ago. No need for others to do so either.

[darthmage]

Anyone find any quests that drop mavi legs hat or feet as rewards?

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[Kaslo]

Is there anyone who could help me understand the logic behind being denied an Abyssea EXP group due to being dependent on MP?

No emotional arguments please. I truly want to understand why denying a BLU a DD slot because they are "Dependent on MP.", is, well... logical.

Mind you this is an Abyssea EXP party and as such the BLU in question will have access to temp items such as Lucid Ethers and Dusty Elixirs. As well as the fact that, in this scenario, the BLU has access to Battery Charge, Auto-Refresh, and the Mirage Jubbah.

Have any of you had experiences running out of MP in an Abyssea EXP group?

All of my experiences point towards a BLU not ever running out of MP unless they're doing something drastically wrong.

But I'd like to get other peoples input on this.


And remember, please attack the logic, not the person. I didn't lay into this guy with insults when this actually happened about 30 minutes ago. No need for others to do so either.

Don't do random Abyssea parties?

[Siphias]

Don't do random Abyssea parties?

As much as I'd love this I'm in an interesting situation of having my entire LS I was in up and move servers right after I had just transferred to the server I'm now on. And frankly I don't much like the server I'm on.

This is all besides the point. I'm still struggling to find a reason as to why being dependent on MP is such a terrible negative that it warrants no invites to Abyssea where temp item chests abound.

[Sabishii]

As much as I'd love this I'm in an interesting situation of having my entire LS I was in up and move servers right after I had just transferred to the server I'm now on. And frankly I don't much like the server I'm on.

This is all besides the point. I'm still struggling to find a reason as to why being dependent on MP is such a terrible negative that it warrants no invites to Abyssea where temp item chests abound.

Ouch, that sucks, don't switch servers just for a LS?

You wouldn't happen to be on asura, would you?

[Cleverness]

Is there anyone who could help me understand the logic behind being denied an Abyssea EXP group due to being dependent on MP?

No emotional arguments please. I truly want to understand why denying a BLU a DD slot because they are "Dependent on MP.", is, well... logical.

Mind you this is an Abyssea EXP party and as such the BLU in question will have access to temp items such as Lucid Ethers and Dusty Elixirs. As well as the fact that, in this scenario, the BLU has access to Battery Charge, Auto-Refresh, and the Mirage Jubbah.

Have any of you had experiences running out of MP in an Abyssea EXP group?

All of my experiences point towards a BLU not ever running out of MP unless they're doing something drastically wrong.

But I'd like to get other peoples input on this.


And remember, please attack the logic, not the person. I didn't lay into this guy with insults when this actually happened about 30 minutes ago. No need for others to do so either.

I've done Abyssea a lot and never run out of MP. Even in parties where temp chests were scarce. And this is spamming alot of spells either in the beginning or end of the fight(depending on what lights were being built). I think it might have just been a case of him/her not knowing about Battery Charge, I still get Refresh/Haste from RDM even when I tell them they can save their MP, although this is possibly more reflexes than anything from years of Refreshing people with low MP bars. That or people skeptical of BLU's since only 5% know what they are doing, and the other 95% TP in AF.

[Siphias]

Ouch, that sucks, don't switch servers just for a LS?

You wouldn't happen to be on asura, would you?

Yes.. Yes I am currently on Asura.

I've done Abyssea a lot and never run out of MP. Even in parties where temp chests were scarce. And this is spamming alot of spells either in the beginning or end of the fight(depending on what lights were being built). I think it might have just been a case of him/her not knowing about Battery Charge, I still get Refresh/Haste from RDM even when I tell them they can save their MP, although this is possibly more reflexes than anything from years of Refreshing people with low MP bars. That or people skeptical of BLU's since only 5% know what they are doing, and the other 95% TP in AF.

I think that BLUs TPing in AF might have something to do with it. All jobs have their bad players.. jobs like BLU and PUP just have a whole lot more of them.

I spent about 20 minutes badgering this guy about his logic. He refused to explain. I mean, if you don't like Blue Mages just tell me. It's not going to hurt my feelings because you don't like my choice of Job. All it will do is make me hate the terrible BLUs that much more. If you'd prefer a heavier hitting DD tell me that! That's cool. I can understand the whole "2h is AWESOME!" deal. But telling me that it's because "I don't want people dependent on MP." is like saying "I don't want RNGs because they use ammo."

[Kegsay]

I've never run out of MP in Abyssea when I go BLU/RDM. Mirage Jubbah, Auto-Refresh, Battery Charge, Convert, Atma of Ambition (4/tick).. I could go on but yeah.

When Quad.Continuum is dishing out 900~1200 a pop taking out a good 20% HP on EXP monsters, just join another abyssea pt ;3