Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[kenshyn]

I think BLU is on the higher end of Abyssea jobs. I mean, I can solo every third or fourth Abyssea mob with a self-SC and one or two spells, and I haven't seen any jobs who are doing that. With Refresh atma, I can keep doing that and casting 1-2 spells per mob indefinitely.

Of course, I do pick-up Abyssea so the overall talent level is low, so I imagine I haven't seen the upper end of what is possible. I hear some WAR WSs can drop entire groups of XP mobs, but I haven't seen it.

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@Draylo,

Are those .DAT swap swords? If not, what are they?

Its Fell Cleave Spam it pretty much owns everything when doing abyssea xp party. A few war/sam's spamming back to back fell cleaves is pretty insane on the damage scale I never seen anything even close to the carnage that can be done against a group of mobs. When wars two hour and use sekkanoki nothing stays up rite long to be honest its crazy as hell. The xp is totally mind boggling even for the best abyssea xp alliance. If you have 2-3 wars spamming Fell Cleave on a lnked group of mobs it's pretty much xp heaven.

http://common.allakhazam.com/images/...618e2b2182.jpg

[Yugl]

I thought Chigoes were evasive.

[shukudai]

Magian sword question time: I have a STR Shamshir +1, and will be working on my next Shamshir +1, and can't figure out if it's better to do another STR sword, or the DEX one. Full BLU merits (sword, str, blue magic, etc), Mithra, access to all +Blue Magic Skill items basically. Have most of the DD and Refresh Atmas, though taking into account that Abyssea isn't *everything* XI has to offer.

I've been told various things, like how I won't cap STR, how STR is easy to cap, how DEX isn't as useful, how STR is always more useful than DEX, and considering I suck at math, i'm hoping one of you is really good at it :3

Most often used spells lately are Quad, Diss, Gobllin Rush, Benethic, sometimes Vanity Dive and Frenetic Rip. 2x STR Shamshir outside Abyssea, 1x STR/1x DEX inside? Or something i'm overlooking?

(Working on a OA2 or OA2-3 for situations where I melee more, or /DNC or whatever).

[Nightfyre]

I'm running STR/STR right now and very pleased with it. The accuracy on a DEX sword is extremely situational at best; even with a full offensive setup (no accuracy gear) and meat I'd only benefit from a portion of the accuracy from the DEX sword on most EXP targets and lesser Abyssea NMs, to the point where I'd be better off making trades elsewhere. I do have 8/8 sword merits though, so take that as you will.

On old content, it's STR all the way.

None of our current DD spells are DEX mod only or have a STR mod weaker than their DEX mod, so STR will always be more valuable than DEX for spells in accuracy capped situations (see above). Even if you're capping fSTR in Abyssea, more spells have STR mods than DEX now and there's also pDIF to consider.

[Draylo]

Hm so Cep-Kamuy is best option atm for leg seals? Just wasted 360k like an idiot on murex spicules and 0 seals -.-

[Yugl]

It probably depends on how you utilize your atmas and gear.

Case for DEX Shamshir+1s
- 10MP/tick covers most MP refresh needs
- The additional gains from the STR atma outweigh the gains from the DEX atma on the grounds that BLU's initial critical hit rate is minuscule during the TP phase and ATT is more consistent
- Given the combination of Refresh + STR Atma, DEX Shamshirs boost the damage of Goblin Rush and Disseverment while effectively handling ACC issues
- Spells that demand off modifiers such as Benthics become easier to meet because STR atma meets a large portion of the fSTR needs

Case for STR Shamshir+1s
- 10MP/tick may not cover all MP needs
- ATT is likely to be capped during the TP phase because of Stalwart's, so DEX atma becomes more important
- Effective in non-abyssea situation

Take whichever premises/arguments you agree with and make a decision.

[Kaslo]

Hm so Cep-Kamuy is best option atm for leg seals? Just wasted 360k like an idiot on murex spicules and 0 seals -.-

I'm atleast lucky that I have PLD and MNK also so I don't mind the random other seals. Plus I have thf so I enter every 5 min to turn in murex and then flee and despoil then exit.

[Draylo]

I traded 12 though.. and 0 seals.. so unless farming them which wastes time, I think I'll just do NM rather than spend 360k every time xD just wanna know what drop rate is like on seals.

[Draylo]

Ah you can steal them? Still would rather do a NM if it has chance to drop more.

[spider123]

Ah you can steal them? Still would rather do a NM if it has chance to drop more.

I've had terrible luck with the Orobon NM, not a single blu leg seal in 12+ pops, even hitting weakness a few times. The pop item itself is a terrible thing too. If you have friends, the bat NM also drops them.

@ Sword questions: If you aren't entirely sure on which Shamshir to do, OAT/hrice is also a nice option. was a total pain in the ass to finish it, but I enjoy my OAThrice Khanda +1

[Nightfyre]

I swear the bat doesn't drop anything but BRD and PLD seals, but at least you don't have to farm pops beforehand...

[Sho]

Ah you can steal them? Still would rather do a NM if it has chance to drop more.

It's all shitty no matter what you target. However, if you think you can get at the bat before others find it up you can do that one quickly, then zone, wait til pop and repeat. Orobon is nice if you want fast SAM & DRK seals as well, they rain like candy when "!!" is triggered (finished SAM before BLU lol).

[shukudai]

It probably depends on how you utilize your atmas and gear.

Case for DEX Shamshir+1s
- 10MP/tick covers most MP refresh needs
- The additional gains from the STR atma outweigh the gains from the DEX atma on the grounds that BLU's initial critical hit rate is minuscule during the TP phase and ATT is more consistent
- Given the combination of Refresh + STR Atma, DEX Shamshirs boost the damage of Goblin Rush and Disseverment while effectively handling ACC issues
- Spells that demand off modifiers such as Benthics become easier to meet because STR atma meets a large portion of the fSTR needs

Case for STR Shamshir+1s
- 10MP/tick may not cover all MP needs
- ATT is likely to be capped during the TP phase because of Stalwart's, so DEX atma becomes more important
- Effective in non-abyssea situation

Take whichever premises/arguments you agree with and make a decision.

Thanks for the help. Tbh, both arguements are good. So... Seeing as Fireday and Lightning Day are... well, different days, one of each it is!

[Kaslo]

Ah you can steal them? Still would rather do a NM if it has chance to drop more.

Technically Despoil them. But yeah, I have been doing Murex exp parties on THF to also farm AF3 feet and just use it as a bonus.

[Clash Perez]

It probably depends on how you utilize your atmas and gear.

Case for DEX Shamshir+1s
- 10MP/tick covers most MP refresh needs
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Case for STR Shamshir+1s
- 10MP/tick may not cover all MP needs

Take whichever premises/arguments you agree with and make a decision.

Lost me on that one. Care to explain?

[ronin sparthos]

Technically Despoil them. But yeah, I have been doing Murex exp parties on THF to also farm AF3 feet and just use it as a bonus.

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God I love Murex PT on BLU, its just so easy to smash them, sanguine them back for any lost HP and cap Azure in no time flat. The lack of Ruby means you get constant TE/Gold boxes flowing so long as you have a competent silencer.

The spicules are icing on the cake. It's like Imps all over again without the AOE silence/amnesia annoyance.

[Yugl]

Lost me on that one. Care to explain?

If you believe that 10MP/Tick will suffice or that an additional 5MP/tick will benefit you more than a STR/DEX atma, you will choose to use two Refresh atmas. If you use two refresh atmas, you won't have the benefit of (+40/50) STR, so you will benefit greatly from the STR Shamshir.

If you reject this statement and believe that 10MP/tick will suffice, you will use a STR or DEX atma. If you use a STR atma (Case for the DEX Shamshir), you're closer to capping, and might even cap fSTR. Consequently, you'll reduce the benefit of STR. In this case, DEX will enhancing the damage of two spells (Goblin Rush and Disseverment) and the additional ACC will help you use more STR in slots where you might have abstracted from doing so.

[6souls]

or just use one refresh+10 atma and use the other for str

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/At...in_Monstrosity

[Kyte]

So do exactly what he was suggesting?

[Roundelk]

Hey guys, I'm wondering if it's worth it to put together an AGI build for Benthic Typhoon? I been thinking about it but I don't know if it's worth the effort.