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  1. #6921
    spider123
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    My spellset has vastly changed since Abyssea was introduced, and we got refresh atmas that keep our tiny MP pools almost full most of the time.

    I generally have set:
    QC/Benthic/Vanity/Whirl of Rage/Goblin Rush/Diss
    Stuff that never comes off: Auroral Drape+SZS for Fast Cast, Head Butt, Embrace or Fruit

    Lately I've also taken a liking to setting MDB with Ice Break/Magnetite Cloud, and Reactor Cool+Sound Blast for MAB for Sanguine, Magic Barrier and Fantod for the spell bonuses.
    The rest of the spells are always different depending on what we need, such as Temporal/Actinic if we need some crown control, or Zephyr/Chaotic if I know I'm gonna be spamming DD spells when farming TE and want to save some MP.

    I'm very fortunate that most of the people I do stuff with have RDM, so I generally have one whenever we do stuff. It frees up a lot of set points that otherwise would be eaten up by Wail/Charge. :3

  2. #6922
    CoP Dynamis
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    Bahamut

    Dissev/Vanity for Acc Bonus
    Whirl/Sting for Zanshin
    Demoralising/Acrid for DA
    QC/Animating for DW
    Plasma/Self-Destruct/Frightful for Auto Refresh
    Battery Charge
    Plenilune Embrace
    Vertical Cleave

    and the rest in STR spells. As a disclaimer, I usually walk around /THF, hence setting DW. Currently sitting at +81 STR outside Abyssea, room for improvement I know, but convincing people to do old VNMs is tiresome.

  3. #6923
    They're coming to take me away. Ha Ha!
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    What category does Benthic Typhoon fall under? Is it used as a damage spell, or is it just used for def downs effects? Is it more of an event support spell, or does it fit into a regular exp set? Is it worth making a set for or should just cast it in whatever I happen to be wearing?

  4. #6924
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    I use it for the DEF/MDEF down, both of which are 10%. I use it constantly, primarily so my follow up spells (QC, Savage>Rush Light) inflict that much more damage.

    It works to great effect.

  5. #6925
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    Lakshmi

    Anyone have 2 pieces of BLU+2 to explain what occasionally augmenting blue spells does?

    I assume it adds a new aspect to them since that's usually what augment means.

  6. #6926
    Cerberus
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    Haven't been playing with them enough to see anything but so far I haven't notice anything increasing damage like going from no af3 to af3+1.

  7. #6927
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    Phoenix

    Quote Originally Posted by Vriska View Post
    Dissev/Vanity for Acc Bonus
    Whirl/Sting for Zanshin
    Demoralising/Acrid for DA
    QC/Animating for DW
    Plasma/Self-Destruct/Frightful for Auto Refresh
    Battery Charge
    Plenilune Embrace
    Vertical Cleave
    Pardon me for being completely daft, I'm sure, but why not Plasma Charge/Actinic Burst and save yourself the points?

  8. #6928
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    Frightful Roar is defense down, and self-destruct still adds str +2.

  9. #6929
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    Anyone else thinking about Magic Fruit > Moon Heal? The recast on the latter fucking stinks.

  10. #6930
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    I just started setting Plenilune Embrace, but I haven't seen it go past 670ish (WTF). The several seconds stun after it kinda blows too.

  11. #6931
    xXNyteFyreXx420Sharingan
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    Fenrir

    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    Anyone else thinking about Magic Fruit > Moon Heal? The recast on the latter fucking stinks.
    I still set Magic Fruit outside Abyssea for greater MP efficiency, but inside Magic Fruit just hasn't been cutting it for me and MP isn't really an issue. Recast on Plenilune Embrace definitely sucks though.

  12. #6932
    I enjoy tapping my sisters fine ass
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    Personally i'd rather cast fruit twice then brace once also 1 less set cost.

  13. #6933
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zadimortis View Post
    Pardon me for being completely daft, I'm sure, but why not Plasma Charge/Actinic Burst and save yourself the points?
    2 set points for 2 STR is a good deal.

  14. #6934
    xXNyteFyreXx420Sharingan
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    I used to do that, but found myself regretting giving up Actinic Burst more often than not :\
    Quote Originally Posted by jimbobsonofgod View Post
    Personally i'd rather cast fruit twice then brace once also 1 less set cost.
    That 1 set point nets 2 STR, not a horrible trade. If I'm soloing, sometimes I'll still use Magic Fruit even in Abyssea... if I'm in a group it's more of an oshit cure though, so the larger cure is usually preferable.

  15. #6935
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredjanx View Post
    Frightful Roar is defense down, and self-destruct still adds str +2.
    The need for setting Frightful has dropped off with Benthic giving DEF and MDEF down while doing damage imo.

    Phenilune's spell-lock is annoying as hell.

  16. #6936
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    Doesn't Benthic Typhoon give more defense down and magic defense down over Frightful Roar? And also have a small AoE? And also kick ass?

    I thought perchance that Self-Destruct was a good enough spell to warrant setting, then I realized just how stupid that idea was. derp

    I get a bit of a lock after I use Magic Fruit too.. I prefer Plenilune just so I can keep up with the massive amounts of HP that need to be healed. If you're casting twice, you're taking away time from beating the everloving bajeezus out of the monster.

    (On an unrelated note, why is it that all of our cures involve throwing/placing something up in the air to heal yourself/someone else? Except Exuviation, but that doesn't really count.)


    If anyone wants to know, my spell setup is:

    Plenilune Embrace
    Battery Charge
    Plasma Charge & Actinic Burst (Auto Refresh, and Actinic Burst's Flash is damn useful if you or someone else gets caught with pants down)
    Animating Wail & Quadratic Continuum (Dual Wield if I happen to /RDM or, god forbid, /SCH for main heal)
    Head Butt (I still think that Tarus should get the animation for the last hit of Asuran Fists for this spell...)
    Vanity Dive & Disseverment (Accuracy Bonus)
    Goblin Rush & Benthic Typhoon (Skillchain Bonus wooo)

    and then:
    Demoralizing Roar & Acrid Stream (If in party)
    Auroral Drape & Sub-Zero Smash (If in small group, no RDM)
    Sandspray & Exuviation & Chaotic Eye & Zephyr Mantle (If solo, see below)
    Chaotic Eye & Zephyr Mantle (Conserve MP... outside of Abyssea, and in Abyssea if you have no refresh atmas (as I do... /rage) this comes in very handy, for only 4 set points)

  17. #6937
    xXNyteFyreXx420Sharingan
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    Fenrir

    Same def down (10%) as Frightful Roar, though Frightful doesn't give mdef down. Both AoE, albeit different forms.

  18. #6938
    An exploitable mess of a card game
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    Night, I see your Quad set and raise you a Kemas Earring/Smilo+1/Strigoi+Spiral.

  19. #6939
    xXNyteFyreXx420Sharingan
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    BLU can't wear Kemas. I may have been using Cuch for accuracy, will check in a bit... Though obviously that's situational Will add Strigoi.

  20. #6940
    An exploitable mess of a card game
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightfyre View Post
    BLU can't wear Kemas.
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

    Glad I didn't put my Triumphs for sale yet.

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