Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[huckster]

I use Hannibal's Sword during AF3 NM farm runs - I get RR + MM (+10mp/tick) Atmas:
1. great damage on sword + high crit rate = win
2. can spam Spells (BT -> QC -> Diss -> GR -> VD) continuosly (with Battery Charge and trait Autorefresh)
3. additional +1 TP helps with Chain Affnity / Efflux TP bonus

And it gives:

Player            Melee Dmg   Melee %   Hit/Miss   M.Acc %  M.Low/Hi    M.Avg  #Crit  C.Low/Hi   C.Avg     Crit%
Hucksterthief        111517   32.39 %   1237/161   88.48 %      0/92    45.49    664    23/249  128.69   53.68 %

[Kaslo]

No talk of the DA9 magian sword? >.>

I say because we get a decent chunk of DA now.

[Atoreis]

I use Hannibal's Sword during AF3 NM farm runs - I get RR + MM (+10mp/tick) Atmas:
1. great damage on sword + high crit rate = win
2. can spam Spells (BT -> QC -> Diss -> GR -> VD) continuosly (with Battery Charge and trait Autorefresh)
3. additional +1 TP helps with Chain Affnity / Efflux TP bonus

And it gives:

Player            Melee Dmg   Melee %   Hit/Miss   M.Acc %  M.Low/Hi    M.Avg  #Crit  C.Low/Hi   C.Avg     Crit%
Hucksterthief        111517   32.39 %   1237/161   88.48 %      0/92    45.49    664    23/249  128.69   53.68 %

1. There is better sword for melee
2. There is no way you can really spam spells with just 11/tic refresh and 3mp tic that this sword drains allow to spam more spells = more dmg.
3. 1TP every 3 sec is almost nothing and with af3+2 legs you are capped at TP with Efflux.
4. This sword is pure shit as fulltime sword and you trying to justify it cuz you got it from T2 NM. If that sword would have same stats and 60lv and drops from some old zones NM you wouldnt even look at it.
5. Best combo in abyssea is imo Almace/OAT(or2-3 depends on preferences) or badelaire+1/sameAsAbove. Tho this combo will have more sense if we get 3rd atma and be able to choose RR/VV/MM becouse now idk and it would be very hard to check if loosing VV for RR to get best result with Zorro is worth it.

[Nightfyre]

No talk of the DA9 magian sword? >.>

I say because we get a decent chunk of DA now.

That would make it less desirable, not more. Not sure where it falls these days, but I'd probably favor OAT for the enhanced utility.

[Atoreis]

Heh what a coincidance I just said almace/OAT is probably best and logged to game and find this mithra

http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/8360/almace.png

Pro.

[Nightfyre]

I dislike Almace/OAT for the same reason I dislike Tizona/OAT: shittastic offhand delay means the mainhand procs less frequently. That's one (well, two) cases where I'd argue for DA Khanda over OAT. Slightly better delay and the DA procs on both hands.

Nice BLU though.

EDIT: All things considered I wouldn't be surprised if DA was superior DPS regardless now though. Decent multihit rate, lower delay, better base damage. Sanguine Blade's inability to DA hurts it a bit but the two have similar enough TP gain at the moment that I'd be surprised if OAT was better overall... Guess I'll toss OAT on the backburner again til the next update.

[Khidir]

something to augment about no.2 of situations

self-sc I should have put it there but yeah wish it didnt have that annoying requirement for regain!

and also DA at a certain point has a lesser point of return past a certain point for the amount equipped depending of course on how much you have

where was that graph again? I found it on ffxiah months ago

[Villian]

What Atma combo do you guys use most of the time? I find RR/MM hurts my spell damage but VV/MM hurts my melee damage, opinions?

[Yugl]

VV/MM since it lets me get TP while running around for Emphs and, in general, enhances TP gain.

[Draylo]

I hope the -def down swords gets boosted next update to at least 20%+, this update it only got base dmg increase still at 15%.

[jimbobsonofgod]

VV/MM

Nobody cares about melee damage. If you're swinging your sword you ain't casting spells !

[Foldypaws]

Nobody cares about melee damage. If you're swinging your sword you ain't casting spells !

No one cares about spell damage. If you're casting a spell, you ain't getting amber light!

[jimbobsonofgod]

No one cares about spell damage. If you're casting a spell, you ain't getting amber light!

Well sir
Regain from VV = TP for sang blade and sang blade isn't modded by physical damage so my point still stands !
and also i thought people just capped lights doing NMs + Eph mobs anyways.

[Draylo]

The good ones do.

[Sho]

Has it been decided that BLU wants the OAT Magian sword over the OA2-3 sword? I know that the damage on the [2-3] sword is utter shit, but if the whole point of getting the weapon is for TP gain, then shouldn't I go all the way?

To be clear, I don't even have an objective in mind for getting a multi-hit sword. It will just be something to play with. If it matters, I have RDM and PLD leveled too (though I may never touch my PLD again).

You see, the problem I now have with OAT/OA3 is that it no longer helps to bring much dmg to the table with the advent of Efflux every 3 mins. You could argue that extra TP from multihits helps every 1~ min when CA is used alone for dmg/self SC, but that's about it. OA3 trails even further behind with lower damage-- I see that sword as more of an upgrade from Joytoy for PLDs, rather than a BLU sword at all. Alas, Jim has made a much better and extended post about how Abyssea has marginalized all BLU swords, which is 100% true. Now that I've said this, OAT/DA is a wonderful sword(s) for getting any extra shots in for more damage.

Conversely, with VV/Berserker's Drink, any DA line sword is also marginal, and you should probably look forward to higher D weapons (see DA version).

At this point, I'd say upgrade anything you want that will make you happy, as it's all marginal upgrades; you should focus on making your spells hit more accurately and harder.

[Draylo]

Almost all upgrades in gear are marginal, that's how it's always been. Macc swords still suck though.

[Khidir]

i thought people just did macc because it was the easiest to complete tbh, I'd never do it


old debacle from awhile back when stuff was capped to 75 with hysteric, disserverment, and frenetic rip vs v.cleave, disserverment, and f. rip


I tried out the latter and saw why some of you like it more sometimes it would hit good numbers without CA but the damage fluctuated (used abbsyea exp mobs at 80 and dynamis beau mobs) and of course with CA it was most often stronger than Ca > Disserverment. Still seems reliable on CA to be signifigantly better than the former combo as v.cleave would hit about 100ish or so under Disserverment and a few points about H.Barrage

it was an interesting test nonetheless

spells I'm using as big 3 vanity dive, G.Rush. Q. Continuum I have a question about self scing damage with G.Rush vs Q. Continuum anyone finding a big difference damage sc wise?

the former is 100% sc damage(unresisted of course) and the latter is 60% more often than not the sc damage isnt resisted and the damage for self scing both seems about the same eyeballin it.

Been messing with B. Typhoon off and on seems like a SA spell as otherwise it feels like a new V.cleave where the damage fluctuates a lot and is a tad inaccurate(with sushi)

[Atoreis]

i thought people just did macc because it was the easiest to complete tbh, I'd never do it


old debacle from awhile back when stuff was capped to 75 with hysteric, disserverment, and frenetic rip vs v.cleave, disserverment, and f. rip


I tried out the latter and saw why some of you like it more sometimes it would hit good numbers without CA but the damage fluctuated (used abbsyea exp mobs at 80 and dynamis beau mobs) and of course with CA it was most often stronger than Ca > Disserverment. Still seems reliable on CA to be signifigantly better than the former combo as v.cleave would hit about 100ish or so under Disserverment and a few points about H.Barrage

it was an interesting test nonetheless

spells I'm using as big 3 vanity dive, G.Rush. Q. Continuum I have a question about self scing damage with G.Rush vs Q. Continuum anyone finding a big difference damage sc wise?

the former is 100% sc damage(unresisted of course) and the latter is 60% more often than not the sc damage isnt resisted and the damage for self scing both seems about the same eyeballin it.

Been messing with B. Typhoon off and on seems like a SA spell as otherwise it feels like a new V.cleave where the damage fluctuates a lot and is a tad inaccurate(with sushi)

Using GR on self SC if you want pure dmg its imo just lol. GR gets only accuracy from TP and QC itself does more dmg then BR+Light. BT is imo very good spell and its a lot better then Vanity dive to spam with QC an GR especially if you start combo with BT and gets more dmg on other 2 from def down. Using VV+MM my BT does same dmg as Vanity I think too so I cant see a reason to cast it over BT.

[Sylvrdragon]

I like BT over VD too when I'm not concerned about the aoe. I've also found a few situations where I'm able to spam both before the cycle is ready to start again (when I have no regard for hate/TP/HB/Shadows).

[Rena]

For those interested~ Mavi Basmak +1 raise BA WSC multiplier from 2 to 2.05.