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  1. #701
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    3 Spinal Cleaves, no learn =/

    I'm 5 levels above it, too.

    Anyways, conditions found:

    Break his main weapon, but try to make his TP moves occur when he has the back sword sheathed away. In other words, he has to choose spinal cleave from the following:

    spinal cleave
    hex palm
    animating wail
    fortifying wail

    He must be h2hing, and his rear sword must be sheathed (not broken)/

  2. #702

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razz
    Quote Originally Posted by Celeras
    Sorta same direction here:

    Has anyone noticed that if you use CA, WS, then use your spell to close a skillchain... that the spell receives the TP bonus of when you used CA even though the weapon skill reduced it to zero before you casted it? I continue to notice a much higher damage with spells in this scenario, even though im casting with 6% tp after a WS.

    Is it possible the TP bonus for CA is calculated when you use the ability, and not when you cast the spell?

    (I apologize if this is as "obvious" as liefe's post, but this is just something I happened to notice the last few exp PTs and im looking to see if its confirmed or not)
    Yeah I've been wondering that too. I would've thought that if I used say for example, frenetic rip with 100TP it would do more damage but it seems to do the same as when I do it with 6%, so I've never bothered to build tp for CA+f.rip alone, always a weaponskill before it for more damage output. I'm sure SATACA death scissors does more damage at 100tp than 10tp though judging from all the screenshots of Battosi using it.
    What throws me is, ive noticed this using Sickle Slash when i self gravitation. According to the message, Sickle slash should be a crit, or not. The damage shouldnt fluctuate that much just because CA is used, thats half the reason im looking for confirmation on my theory ;o

  3. #703
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    body slam is one you can get at 75. Mt. Z with a blink tank against the VT/IT Dahak up there

  4. #704
    The God Damn Kuno
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    I fucking hate trees. 0/28 with only 2 trees in jugner. Should I wait till Im high enough to solo the harder ones or what?

  5. #705
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kuno
    I fucking hate trees. 0/28 with only 2 trees in jugner. Should I wait till Im high enough to solo the harder ones or what?
    You don't even need it, because it sucks hard, but yeah you can just wait til you can solo the ones in lufaise. I think I got mine from colorful leshy unintentionally.

  6. #706
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kuno
    I fucking hate trees. 0/28 with only 2 trees in jugner. Should I wait till Im high enough to solo the harder ones or what?
    There's at least 3 trees in Jugner. One by the road where the Spore Hollow is, one west of the shortcut around F-9 and a third one around J-10. Took me a ton of tries to get this as well, you might get better results dragging a friend out to Lufaise and have them solo Leshys.

    EDIT: Yeah, it's kinda useless, but it was helpful when I was trying to get Frightful Roar and Radiant Breath. Pulled the Wyverns with Pinecone Bomb so I wouldn't get shredded with their double attacks + fast running. It's got really good range too.

  7. #707
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    Can blu learn stuff from NM's of that mob-type? Would be cool if it was 100% learn from NM's ^^

  8. #708
    The God Damn Kuno
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razz
    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kuno
    I fucking hate trees. 0/28 with only 2 trees in jugner. Should I wait till Im high enough to solo the harder ones or what?
    You don't even need it, because it sucks hard, but yeah you can just wait til you can solo them.
    I'm OCD. And I kinda figured it sucks because I've noticed everything that doesn't start with B and ends in ludgeon isn't worth using.

  9. #709
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    Quote Originally Posted by shihei
    Can blu learn stuff from NM's of that mob-type? Would be cool if it was 100% learn from NM's ^^
    If it were 100% learn rate from NMs I would have spent 2 minutes getting Pinecone Bomb from Fraelissa and not 4+ hours running back and forth killing trees.

  10. #710
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    Quote Originally Posted by shihei
    Can blu learn stuff from NM's of that mob-type? Would be cool if it was 100% learn from NM's ^^
    If an NM gives potential exp then yes, but it isnt 100%.

    BTW Kuno, level 69 is a golden level for BLU, because you can finally say FU to Bludgeon and start doing some spike damage. I don't have it set anymore :3

  11. #711
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razz
    Quote Originally Posted by shihei
    Can blu learn stuff from NM's of that mob-type? Would be cool if it was 100% learn from NM's ^^
    If an NM gives potential exp then yes, but it isnt 100%.

    BTW Kuno, level 69 is a golden level for BLU, because you can finally say FU to Bludgeon and start doing some spike damage. I don't have it set anymore :3
    Only a bajillion more lvls to go!

    And thanks for that 3rd position I didn't know about that one. I just ran from the enterance to batallia and latheine over and over.

  12. #712
    The Once and Future Wamoura
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    Got Pinecone Bomb 1/1 off a Leshy :D
    But Bliztnazigerman and Mysterious Light are being extremely annoying :\
    Running around in Delkfutt's isnt fun either >_>

  13. #713
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    I've started to keep Bludgeon off my set list in the 50s, the single-hit damage from Mandibular and Sickle Slash is a lot more reliable. Espeically when you're slogging through Crab hell, RLB -> Sickle Slash lets you burst MP Drainkiss for 80-110.

    It's still a good spell most of the time but I'm starting to see diminishing returns. Sickle/Mandibular are scaling really nicely while Bludgeon seems stuck in the high 2/low 3 digits.

  14. #714

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    Lumberjack spawn through beacudine.

    1 tree, 5 minute repop. Thats where I got it.

  15. #715
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulkeeva
    someone said earlier to make it body slam was to pull hate in every direction (back/siudes/front) and force body slam guess its maybe like a spike flail move for this thing...?
    I've heard this. I remember my LS mates were saying that the Dragons would only body slam in Double Dragonian if you had hate from a bunch of different directions (so fight in a line). I've never actually tried it myself, however, if this is true, it means that it is not possible to solo body slam.

  16. #716
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razz
    Quote Originally Posted by shihei
    Can blu learn stuff from NM's of that mob-type? Would be cool if it was 100% learn from NM's ^^
    If an NM gives potential exp then yes, but it isnt 100%.

    BTW Kuno, level 69 is a golden level for BLU, because you can finally say FU to Bludgeon and start doing some spike damage. I don't have it set anymore :3
    NM's (Impossible to Gauge) in Besieged don't give any direct Experience Points (it can be argued that you get EXP from the reward later), but you can learn spells from them. My friend learned Enervation while watching his PT below him kill a mob.

  17. #717
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanthalas
    Quote Originally Posted by Razz
    Quote Originally Posted by shihei
    Can blu learn stuff from NM's of that mob-type? Would be cool if it was 100% learn from NM's ^^
    If an NM gives potential exp then yes, but it isnt 100%.

    BTW Kuno, level 69 is a golden level for BLU, because you can finally say FU to Bludgeon and start doing some spike damage. I don't have it set anymore :3
    NM's (Impossible to Gauge) in Besieged don't give any direct Experience Points (it can be argued that you get EXP from the reward later), but you can learn spells from them. My friend learned Enervation while watching his PT below him kill a mob.
    Besieged is the answer to some of the annoying WS's o.O

  18. #718
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    I don't think you can learn from Besieged unless anyone can confirm differently.

  19. #719
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    Anyone got any screenies to back that up ?? >.>

  20. #720
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    Two different sources, one especially reliable and respected member of the Pandemonium community (Griphis from Lapis LS), told me they learned their spells from Beseiged.

    Obrion said he got Enervation.
    Griphis said he got Warm-Up.

    No screenshots, but I don't see why they would make this up, unless they were just mistaking Beseiged for something else perhaps.

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