Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Prothescar]

If that was straight tanking I really wonder subjobs and spells used for DD and for defense? and what atmas?

I subbed NIN. Cocoon and Saline help but were unnecessary. Acheron Flame hit for 1.5k max and I have nearly 3k HP with only cruor buffs, Fulmination is the same deal (just have your mage[s] stand at the top of the ledge near the pop point, and you stand in the little canyon). Used the standard VV/RR/MM and DD spells, didn't bother with Head Butt since both resist the stun almost 100% of the time. They aren't that hard if your healer is competent.

As for the Hydra being "better" than the Khimaria: I've yet to find any evidence suggesting any mob has any particular seal drop more than any other seal. Khimaria dropped 15~ for us then stopped, and then I went and killed several Hydras for no BLU, and out of nowhere it dropped 3. Random is random, and the Khim is definitely easier to lowman than the Hydra.

[Sylvrdragon]

So I finally got off my lazy ass and got my Mavi Tathlum... and realized that I have no idea if it's even any good. My current casting Ammo piece is Olibanum Sachet (E) for +2 STR. I don't remember where the Blue Magic Tiers are, but my current skill during a Phys spell is 386 (AF+1 Body, AF3+1 Legs, 0 merits). Ammo will put me at 391. I have 21 merits stored up with nothing to spend them on, and I'm willing to ditch some Enfeebling and/or Elemental merits if it will tier me up.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

[Nightfyre]

386*0.11=42
391*0.11=43

So yeah, worth using. Won't tier up if you add 8 merits but it will again if you find 5 more skill somewhere (guessing your pants are +1).

[TacoTaru]

Asked before but I didn't really see an answer except for a note on what the new Big3 are (still appreciated), but what kind of spells should I be setting for 3~5man seal farming/dominion/leveling up sessions? I know for seal farming I will need the grellow spells which I all have, but for the other two I'm operating on an old set that a friend gave me like a year ago. Currently using:

Head Butt | Frenetic Rip | Hysteric Barrage | Cannonball
Disseverment | Vertical Cleave | Cocoon | Diamondhide
Magic Fruit | Actinic Burst | Plasma Charge | Triumphant Roar

Have 4pts left, but I don't remember what I used to use it on, or if I should even keep what I have. Thanks in advance.

*Edit*
Forgot to note that I'm currently 75.

[Roundelk]

I subbed NIN. Cocoon and Saline help but were unnecessary. Acheron Flame hit for 1.5k max and I have nearly 3k HP with only cruor buffs, Fulmination is the same deal (just have your mage[s] stand at the top of the ledge near the pop point, and you stand in the little canyon). Used the standard VV/RR/MM and DD spells, didn't bother with Head Butt since both resist the stun almost 100% of the time. They aren't that hard if your healer is competent.

As for the Hydra being "better" than the Khimaria: I've yet to find any evidence suggesting any mob has any particular seal drop more than any other seal. Khimaria dropped 15~ for us then stopped, and then I went and killed several Hydras for no BLU, and out of nowhere it dropped 3. Random is random, and the Khim is definitely easier to lowman than the Hydra.

Well the Hydra isn't that much more difficult than the Khimaira (both are easy) just sometimes the khimaira comes out of nowhere and randomly chainspells which can cause a problem quickly.

[Prothescar]

I'll admit that the chainspell is pretty nasty yeah. Point was, there's no real point doing one over the other simply because one drops seals more often than the other, since it doesn't; do whichever one you think you're best equipped to handle.

[Sho]

wut atma are you using for those BT numbers? Gnarled horn + rr?

VV+RR+GH

[Roundelk]

I'll admit that the chainspell is pretty nasty yeah. Point was, there's no real point doing one over the other simply because one drops seals more often than the other, since it doesn't; do whichever one you think you're best equipped to handle.

Yea I can agree with that.

[mightyg]

Asked before but I didn't really see an answer except for a note on what the new Big3 are (still appreciated), but what kind of spells should I be setting for 3~5man seal farming/dominion/leveling up sessions? I know for seal farming I will need the grellow spells which I all have, but for the other two I'm operating on an old set that a friend gave me like a year ago. Currently using:

Head Butt | Frenetic Rip | Hysteric Barrage | Cannonball
Disseverment | Vertical Cleave | Cocoon | Diamondhide
Magic Fruit | Actinic Burst | Plasma Charge | Triumphant Roar

Have 4pts left, but I don't remember what I used to use it on, or if I should even keep what I have. Thanks in advance.

*Edit*
Forgot to note that I'm currently 75.

I don't have many recommendations for level 75, but as you progress you can gradually replace a few spell combo's with these:

winds of promyvion + actinic Burst = auto refresh (cheaper point cost and winds can be quite useful)

goblin Rush + benthic typhoon = skillchain damage bonus (goblin rush does light with savage blade for good numbers though savage to quadratic continuum is usually better)

acrid stream + empty thrash = double attack (demoralizing roar also works but the former costs less points)

quadratic continuum (generally our strongest multihit spell at the moment, skillchains like disseverment)

disseverment + vanity dive = accuracy bonus (cheaper point cost and vanity dive is generally comparable to frenetic rip)

battery charge (it's self refresh)

occultulation (can be quite useful if you're not subbed nin, or even as fallback shadows if yours aren't up. It's fairly costly mpwise but that shouldn't be an issue in abyssea at least.)

delta thrust (lower damage, but the plague effect does lower tp of most normal monsters, and it's very cheap to cast, good for outside abyssea)

heat breath (as your hp gets higher and you get more abyssites, it's damage will start doing a good 1300-1700 depending on race and hp gear)

sub zero smash + auroral drape = fast cast (good for casting magical spells or if you just want to cut your utsusemi recast times a little bit more)

everyone's grudge, charged whisker, thermal pulse (these actually are pretty decent magic damage spells assuming you have a gear set to use them with)

animated wail (moar haste)

[Sylvrdragon]

Optimizing your spell set at 75 is a waste of time IMO. Just set whatever and get 90 ASAP. If you can find a good Ops PT, you can hit 90 in a few hours. If you have to settle for a standard Abyssea PT, it will take 5-6. Don't worry if you damage sucks in Abyssea at 75; it picks up plenty once you get some good Abyssite and atmas and the new spells.

[TacoTaru]

Appreciate the answers; utilizing combos well was also something I was curious about so thanks for that. Have been trying to level my BLU with my wife's NIN but that hasn't been working out. I've been building up spells/gear from the advice here, so thanks for all the help.

[shepardG]

Does anyone know if there's a comprehensive list of the spells and what each one's modifier(s) are? Basically trying to write my spellcast, and don't want to have to click through each fucking spell on other wiki just to find out that yada yada is dex+mnd or some crap...

[montgomery]

Does anyone know if there's a comprehensive list of the spells and what each one's modifier(s) are? Basically trying to write my spellcast, and don't want to have to click through each fucking spell on other wiki just to find out that yada yada is dex+mnd or some crap...

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Blue_Mage

[shepardG]

Does anyone know if there's a comprehensive list of the spells and what each one's modifier(s) are? Basically trying to write my spellcast, and don't want to have to click through each fucking spell on other wiki just to find out that yada yada is dex+mnd or some crap...

But thank you for the attempt... i guess :/

[montgomery]

Oh. I'm aware.

Edit: the : x face isn't cute on these forums. :/

[Nightfyre]

Does anyone know if there's a comprehensive list of the spells and what each one's modifier(s) are? Basically trying to write my spellcast, and don't want to have to click through each fucking spell on other wiki just to find out that yada yada is dex+mnd or some crap...

BG Wiki's Calculating Blue Magic Damage page used to be pretty up to date but looks like it hasn't been updated since 75. I doubt otherwiki's has been updated either. If I find some time I'll try to update it, but I doubt that'll happen for about a week or so.

Does anyone have fTP and WSC info on the new physical spells? Don't think I ever saw them posted here.

[Deftscythe]

Just got my third lunar. What's everybody using for their third atma? VV+MM+?

[Alistaire]

Is there anything of an up-to-date skillchain chart with new BLU spells? Offhand I know Savage > Delta Thrust makes liquefaction, for rare times I'll SC to finish a mob and don't want/need to spend more MP on extra overkill.

Edit: Or SC and NOT want an azure light from it. And particularly, any good SC now with Vorpal?

[Miroku_Asura]

Just got my third lunar. What's everybody using for their third atma? VV+MM+?

RR I'd assume

[Hanyoko]

VV+RR+MM or RR+MM+Apoc depending on your style/situation