Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Atoreis]

What is a good off hand weapon for a Almace BLU? I was thinking OAT-4 or DA Khanda and a good CDC setup?

Imo Dex Shamshir if that would allow you to use att food (or at least marinara instead of sushi)
Isador or Mageblade for tanking (depends of equip you have)
DA% Khanda looks like a better sword for me then 2-4 because, with VV and trait and brutal,atheling,epona you will have 35% da rate affecting both weapons (Almace in this case) and trust me ODD gives even more on empy then Ws itself.

[Roundelk]

Imo Dex Shamshir if that would allow you to use att food (or at least marinara instead of sushi)
Isador or Mageblade for tanking (depends of equip you have)
DA% Khanda looks like a better sword for me then 2-4 because, with VV and trait and brutal,atheling,epona you will have 35% da rate affecting both weapons (Almace in this case) and trust me ODD gives even more on empy then Ws itself.

I totally agree with the DA Khanda as I was leaning towards it.

[Ethican]

hey what gear setup were you using for that 7k whiskers roundelk?

[Roundelk]

hey what gear setup were you using for that 7k whiskers roundelk?

Jupiter's staff/Bugard +1 (There's never a fucking spear strap in AH)
Aias bonnet/Shifting necklace/Mold - Hecate's earrings
Teal body/AF3+2/Airy - Rajas (Yea gimp)
Hecates/Thiazi belt/Teal legs/AF3+2

Also used an Asetic's drink and Burst affinity but note those cockatrice's resist my damage abit. I usually do 4.5k+ with those buffs while these were 3.5k-3.7k on cocks BLU/RDM.

[Hwang]

Why would you use Aias bonnet for a magical spell?

[Nightfyre]

Charged Whisker has a DEX mod.

[Atoreis]

Why would you use Aias bonnet for a magical spell?

I'm surprised you asked about bonnet and not about belt, rings and neck lol

[Sylvrdragon]

Ok... math people are gonna have to explain Charged Whisker to me, cause I can't figure the damn spell out. After reading about those numbers and the DEX mod and all that, I decided to slaughter some Tiny Mandragoras and optimize my set with what gear I've got. So I cast a few times naked to set a base damage. I then added 5 INT and cast again and took note of the damage. I then took off the INT and did 5 DEX instead. The DEX gave me 3 more damage. I did it several times with different pieces of gear to boost the stats each time to make sure there were no hidden mods that I didn't know about. Then I put on my current CW set and tested the damage. I then switched one 5 INT piece of gear (Snow Ring) with a 5 DEX piece (Rajas) (These were also one of the control swaps that matched up earlier)... For some reason, I'm getting more damage with the Snow ring this time around by 9 damage.

These were the only things to change. Day proc isn't an option as I did all tests in an Obi on Thundersday (didn't realize what day it was till I got there, but luckily had my Obi on me) so that everything would still line up (I wasn't going for exact numbers, just wanted to know what was better, so I wasn't worried about the day bonus throwing stuff off).

So... when I was naked, DEX > INT, but with full gear on, INT > DEX. Did I hit some kinda cap since I was killing lvl0 mobs?

Edit: Just did it again on Lightsday, same exact results... what's happening here?

[Yugl]

That's vague, so it might be several things. Recall that each step floors the number. 50% DEX > Floor > Multiply by fTP > Floor again. It might just be that flooring is messing up the damage at higher levels.

Edit: if there's a cap, it's with your dINT instead of WSC.

[Atoreis]

Ok... math people are gonna have to explain Charged Whisker to me, cause I can't figure the damn spell out. After reading about those numbers and the DEX mod and all that, I decided to slaughter some Tiny Mandragoras and optimize my set with what gear I've got. So I cast a few times naked to set a base damage. I then added 5 INT and cast again and took note of the damage. I then took off the INT and did 5 DEX instead. The DEX gave me 3 more damage. I did it several times with different pieces of gear to boost the stats each time to make sure there were no hidden mods that I didn't know about. Then I put on my current CW set and tested the damage. I then switched one 5 INT piece of gear (Snow Ring) with a 5 DEX piece (Rajas) (These were also one of the control swaps that matched up earlier)... For some reason, I'm getting more damage with the Snow ring this time around by 9 damage.

These were the only things to change. Day proc isn't an option as I did all tests in an Obi on Thundersday (didn't realize what day it was till I got there, but luckily had my Obi on me) so that everything would still line up (I wasn't going for exact numbers, just wanted to know what was better, so I wasn't worried about the day bonus throwing stuff off).

So... when I was naked, DEX > INT, but with full gear on, INT > DEX. Did I hit some kinda cap since I was killing lvl0 mobs?

Edit: Just did it again on Lightsday, same exact results... what's happening here?

Is there is a chance that while naked 5 int made your total in odd and you was lacking 1 point of int for next tier and dex was opposite (was odd before this +5) and +5 made it even giving you 3 tiers.
While same thing but reversed happened with full equip. Check naked again but with +6 dex and +6 int this time.

Or try with much higher number (for example using atmas). Try dmg with RR then try with MM. If the difference between both will be very small like 10-20 points of dmg on 2k nuke then its for sure rounding up.

[Alistaire]

I think someone's been messin with lolwiki again, looked up Goblin Rush to see how high a MND mod it was and it's now saying STR30% DEX30%...I'm 99% sure there was no DEX mod on that. Confirm/deny?

[Odin'sLaw]

I think someone's been messin with lolwiki again, looked up Goblin Rush to see how high a MND mod it was and it's now saying STR30% DEX30%...I'm 99% sure there was no DEX mod on that. Confirm/deny?

i'm sure it used to be 30 40 but that was from lulzapidea besides drop rate's and quest info i wouldn't trust what's on there

[Hwang]

I'm surprised you asked about bonnet and not about belt, rings and neck lol

That's what happens when you post at 4am lol

[Odin'sLaw]

That's what happens when you post at 4am lol

i'm more surprised that AF3+1/2 isn't better for blu then teal

[Atoreis]

i'm more surprised that AF3+1/2 isn't better for blu then teal

You mean legs?
If 1 DEX = 1INT for charged then +2 legs vs teal are 3DEX vs 3MAB. Its unlikely that dex will win.

[Odin'sLaw]

You mean legs?
If 1 DEX = 1INT for charged then +2 legs vs teal are 3DEX vs 3MAB. Its unlikely that dex will win.

isn't +2 legs +10 dex + 15 blue magic skill?

[Atoreis]

isn't +2 legs +10 dex + 15 blue magic skill?

+8 DEX and blue magic skill only affect macc on magical nukes.

[Sylvrdragon]

What should I aim for for a TPing body on BLU? Right now I'm using Mirage, but I can't shake the feeling that there is a better option in Abyssea considering how much refresh I already have.

When I'm dicking around and/or lowmanning stuff, I roll with MM VV Apoc, but when I'm seriously going for damage, I tend to prefer RR over Apoc.

[Yugl]

Mintan+2.

[Draylo]

Seems DA sword would be the way to go with the Almace purely focusing on the ws. Most BLU, and myself, normally wouldn't just focus on ws though. Should also be using spells, at the least delta thrust and CA/effluxed spells like QC and dissv for poison. Any thoughts on offhanding a str shamshir for the +9 str and atk for ws or would the DA sword be more beneficial overall while not neglecting spellcasting and balancing between ws and spell?

Any thoughts on sub? I've tried WAR, NIN and RDM. If I am needed to build time on my BLU I find /rdm more beneficial but focusing on purely DDing I tend to like /nin better than /war for more survivability against certain NM's, extra grellow proc and DW trait. More often I don't even go all out due to having to hold back if the NM is being a bitch with procs. Seems not much use for /war outside of berserk/provoke due to being able to set DA now.