Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Atoreis]

If anyone is interested I did my DA from trial 159 to 1207 doing cleave on:
Clusters in Misar - Magic aggro for pull and avoid NM
Chigoes in Attohwa - aggro pull avoid Tunga (good to go while some group camp Tunga)
Tauri in Vunkler - I was pulling all of them but it's easy to pull as many as you want at once
Rafflesia in Konschtat - by far the worst. Long distance between mobs and they hits much harder. Best is to just get some friends here (DD+WHM) and just camp on stone circle and as BLU keep pulling mobs to camp and sleep them.
Spheroids in w/e heroes zone

ps. In my experience Vunkler Bastions are best for getting points for souls.

[Sute]

Could have done Rafflesia in Fort K, still EP, plenty around and really weak.

[Atoreis]

Could have done Rafflesia in Fort K, still EP, plenty around and really weak.

You didn't understand me. Rafflesia in abyssea wasn't as fast as other mobs which I could kill 20+ at once but its definitely faster to solo one by one in abyssea then outside. Fast respawn, atmas etc. it's much faster then in FKN just not as fast as cleave.

[doctorugh]

Why are you guys talking about Cleaving when you have Charged Whisker at your disposal?

[Sho]

If anyone is interested I did my DA from trial 159 to 1207 doing cleave on:
Clusters in Misar - Magic aggro for pull and avoid NM
Chigoes in Attohwa - aggro pull avoid Tunga (good to go while some group camp Tunga)
Tauri in Vunkler - I was pulling all of them but it's easy to pull as many as you want at once
Rafflesia in Konschtat - by far the worst. Long distance between mobs and they hits much harder. Best is to just get some friends here (DD+WHM) and just camp on stone circle and as BLU keep pulling mobs to camp and sleep them.
Spheroids in w/e heroes zone

ps. In my experience Vunkler Bastions are best for getting points for souls.

Can honestly say no idea is original (didn't even read this post and cleaved the EXACT same mobs these past few days as well, lol). I completely agree with and encourage anyone to cleave those mobs. Some changes would be fighting normally on clusters and rafflesia, and/or getting a typical exp party for the Arcana trial instead of cleaving orbs.

Why are you guys talking about Cleaving when you have Charged Whisker at your disposal?

In my opinion using Charged Whisker is considered "cleaving." Still killing a mass group of mobs ala Fell Cleave.

[Tsuko_Asura]

Pretty sure "cleaving" is the universal term. I always say I'm cleaving when I go Aeolian Edge stuff.

[sam]

gud

[Tanag]

What are the spells needed for BLU Cleaving? What's the best setup and strat?

[Kaslo]

Charged Whisker and Nuking/DEX gear/atma.

[Yugl]

Charged Whiskers, Yawn, Dream Flower, Actinic, Thermal Pulse, Leafstorm, Ice Break, Flying Hip Press, Memento Mori, and so forth.

[etelosbo]

I say aoeing instead of cleaving.. aoe isn't new since fellcleave came out.

Charged whisker, aburst, thermal pulse, dream flower, enervation, memento mori are my main spells when aoeing. If I'm solo or the puller I'll add in warm up and/or reactor cool for the pull. I sub rdm when aoeing, the mab and aquaveil are very helpful.

[Jeryhn]

This seems like the Random Question thread designated for BLU, so here goes.

I'm thinking of taking BLU up to 90.
I realize its a fairly complicated job compared to the others in terms of job traits and equipment, so here are the thing I need to know:

- BLU is currently 21 with all available spells. Planning on burning this in Abyssea to 90. I realize I'll need to skill up the Blue Magic skill in order to learn my spells. Once I'm 90, what are the first spells I should shoot for, not including Grellow procs?
- Notable merit setup. Obviously Assimilation is a clear winner and Diffusion has some situational use, but I'm a little clueless as to what's most important on the rest. My attribute merit is INT. Also, exactly how important are Blue Magic skill merits, and will I want/need them over, say, Elemental or Enfeebling merits?
- I have some decent gear I can carry over from MNK: Loki's, Aias, etc. What are some other pieces of primo important gear I'll need for this job, not including Almace (which I plan on doing after I finish Veret). And in the meantime for Almace, what are the best swords I could be using?
- I have some elemental staffs from my other jobs, though admittedly I've done some Magian trials and gotten rid of a few. Since BLU can't equip Magian staffs, which staffs should I get that are important for BLU (only Jupiter's w/ Charged Whisker comes to mind).
- Probably the most important question, what are some decent spell-sets to be using these days, and for what reasons?

I think this about covers it for now.

[Alistaire]

I say aoeing instead of cleaving.. aoe isn't new since fellcleave came out.

Charged whisker, aburst, thermal pulse, dream flower, enervation, memento mori are my main spells when aoeing. If I'm solo or the puller I'll add in warm up and/or reactor cool for the pull. I sub rdm when aoeing, the mab and aquaveil are very helpful.

I find aquaveil to be borderline essential. And nah, "aoeing" still sounds weird in your head when you read it. Cleaving is fine for me, nobody expects a blu talking about cleaving to whip out a great axe...

[Yugl]

This seems like the Random Question thread designated for BLU, so here goes.

I'm thinking of taking BLU up to 90.
I realize its a fairly complicated job compared to the others in terms of job traits and equipment, so here are the thing I need to know:

- BLU is currently 21 with all available spells. Planning on burning this in Abyssea to 90. I realize I'll need to skill up the Blue Magic skill in order to learn my spells. Once I'm 90, what are the first spells I should shoot for, not including Grellow procs?
- Notable merit setup. Obviously Assimilation is a clear winner and Diffusion has some situational use, but I'm a little clueless as to what's most important on the rest. My attribute merit is INT. Also, exactly how important are Blue Magic skill merits, and will I want/need them over, say, Elemental or Enfeebling merits?
- I have some decent gear I can carry over from MNK: Loki's, Aias, etc. What are some other pieces of primo important gear I'll need for this job, not including Almace (which I plan on doing after I finish Veret). And in the meantime for Almace, what are the best swords I could be using?
- I have some elemental staffs from my other jobs, though admittedly I've done some Magian trials and gotten rid of a few. Since BLU can't equip Magian staffs, which staffs should I get that are important for BLU (only Jupiter's w/ Charged Whisker comes to mind).
- Probably the most important question, what are some decent spell-sets to be using these days, and for what reasons?

I think this about covers it for now.

No time to sort them out:

Refresh	Actinic	4			Headbutt	3				Headbutt	3					Headbutt	3				Battery Charge
Refresh	Winds of Promy	5			Disseverment	5				Disseverment	5					Disseverment	5				Animating Wail
DA	Acrid Stream	3			Quad Connundrum	4				Quad Connundrum	4					Quad Connundrum	4				Magic Fruit
DA	Empty Thrash	3			Battery Charge	3				Battery Charge	3					Battery Charge	3				Occultation
DWII	Blazing Bound	3			Animating Wail	5				Animating Wail	5					Animating Wail	5				Charged Whisker
DWII	Delta Thrust	2			Goblin Rush	3				Goblin Rush	3					Goblin Rush	3			Conserve MP	Mantle
Fast Cast	SubSmash	4			Cure	3				Magic Fruit	3					Magic Fruit	3			Conserve MP	Chaotic Eye
Fast Cast	Auroral	4		Staples	Occultation	3	29		Staples	Occultation	3	29			Staples	Occultation	3	29		EX	Dream Flower
MAB	Sphere	2		Refresh	Actinic	4			Refresh	Actinic	4				Refresh	Actinic	4			Refresh	Actinic
MAB	Dream Flower	3		Refresh	Winds	5	38		Refresh	Winds	5	38			Refresh	Winds	5	38		Refresh	Winds
MAB	Sound Blast	1		Fast Cast	SubSmash	4			DWII	Blazing	3				Fast Cast	SubSmash	4			EX	Everyone's Grudge
ACC	Vanity Dive	2		Fast Cast	Auroral	4	46		DWII	Delta	2	43			Fast Cast	Auroral	4	46		EX	Fantod
Conserve MP	Mantle	2		DA	Acrid Stream	3			DA	Acrid Stream	3				MAB	Sphere	2			EX	Leafstorm
Conserve MP	Chaotic Eye	2		DA	Empty Thrash	3	52		DA	Empty Thrash	3	49			MAB	Sound	1	49		EX	Thermal Pulse
				MAB	Sphere	2			EX	Benthic Typhoon	4	53			EX	Dream Flower	3	52		EX	Amplification
EX	Benthic	4		MAB	Sound	1	55		ACC	Vanity Dive	2	55								EX	Reactor Cool
EX	Dream Flower	3																			
EX	Everyone's Grudge	4																			
EX	Vanity Dive	2																			
EX	Whirl of Rage	2

All elemental staffs help in some way (Earth being the exception if you have PDT Sword 2x or + Genbu Shield). Merit CA + BA until content becomes tougher. Assimilation + Enchainment or Diffusion. Gear you'll want Maat's if you can, DEX + INT + Spiral + MND (Maybe) + STR Rings. AF+1 body is a must. Suppa if you don't have it. There's not much OMG OMG OMG gear outside of AF3+2 that you haven't listed. Heafocs is good though. Quick post, but gives direction.

[Jeryhn]

Hmm, I tried opening that code in Notepad but can't really come up with a discernable pattern to it. Not exactly sure what its listing, maybe different spellsets for different occasions?

Should've mentioned that I do have Heafocs, but figured there would be some spells based on DEX that I'd be using regularly. Is there any real reason to not use Heafocs on a physical spell (or which ones)? Also already have Suppa. Also, it seems that BLU's main subjob tends to be /NIN (especially since Grellow triggers are important, allowing a single BLU to be responsible for 3 procs rather than just 2, and frees up a NIN sub on your MNK so they can counter more often). Is there any benefit to setting spells to specifically unlock Dual Wield (II) on BLU? Can't really imagine when I'd use any other sub other than a mage sub for healing or cleaving.

[Yugl]

No benefit to DW II (I use 1 when sub RDM). Since STR from heafoc, even with the DEX reduction, will beat any STR+DEX combo equal to or less than 9 depending on the spell. Most spells are DEX+STR, so the added STR evens it out. Some spells like Vanity Dive (50% DEX) won't gain the same benefit. STR also boosts your BLU ATT. The code is actually from excel. I use excel to manage BLU spell lists since I can put points directly next to the spell.

[Clash Perez]

As for non-Almace swords, the STR Shamshir and Double Attack Khanda are solid options. Isador is a decent weapon, easy to get, and pretty useful if you're blink tanking as the sole tank. Some combination of those should tide you over until Almace.

[Clash Perez]

Also, what are you all using for neckwear these days? I haven't a lot of BLU playtime recently, and I've since capped haste pre-neck. Inside Abyssea it's an easy switch to TP in Loki's, but outside keeping AF3+2 body becomes much more enticing.

Why isn't BLU on Agasaya's? D:

[Yugl]

Wivre Gorget/Orochi Nodowa+1/Fort Torque.

[Kegsay]

With regards to Almace:
- I assume double damage can't proc on spells.
- What does CDC SC with? (e.g. CDC -> Quad Con? = ?)
- How much damage does CDC do (with a decent DEX build obviously) compared to Vorpal:
a. In abyssea with RR/GH/etc
b. Outside abyssea
- A good DEX build?
- Spells add 60 delay after the cast much like JAs. Would you get higher DoT spamming CDC or would spell spamming still dish out more pain?