Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Skie]

With regards to Almace:
- I assume double damage can't proc on spells.
- What does CDC SC with? (e.g. CDC -> Quad Con? = ?)
- How much damage does CDC do (with a decent DEX build obviously) compared to Vorpal:
a. In abyssea with RR/GH/etc
b. Outside abyssea
- Spells add 60 delay after the cast much like JAs. Would you get higher DoT spamming CDC or would spell spamming still dish out more pain?

1) aftermath is for almace only, meaning only the main hand can deal double dmg, no spells or off hand.
2) would like to know this myself
3a) with near max dex build low end 1.5k high end 4.5k with rr/mm/vv, vorp was doing 400-1.6k
3b)350-800ish vorp, 800-2.5kish
4) I primarly focus on dd, throw out a few quads/goblin's randomly for kicks.

would really like a walk through of how to cleave on blu if anyone has one plz intresting in doing ti

[Kaslo]

CDC -> BT for Darkness
CDC -> Goblin for Fusion

or just close other's skillchains for more damage.

[Alistaire]

In the news today...

The following blue magic spells will no longer be effective against enemy weaknesses:
Death Ray / Blitzstrahl / Hecatomb Wave / 1000 Needles / Frost Breath / Firespit / Regurgitation / Seedspray

wtf? 5/8 of those were perfectly fine. I can see them changing Seedspray cause it doesn't really fit the criteria in the first place...and good to see about Blitz/1k but why the other 5?

Also, I asked last page what people thought about meritting DEX for a primary Almace BLU, no responses...anyone got thoughts on that at all?

Edit: NEVERMIND I SEE IT NOW. We're down to 1 spell per element. Nice.

[Skie]

In the news today...



wtf? 5/8 of those were perfectly fine. I can see them changing Seedspray cause it doesn't really fit the criteria in the first place...and good to see about Blitz/1k but why the other 5?

Also, I asked last page what people thought about meritting DEX for a primary Almace BLU, no responses...anyone got thoughts on that at all?

Edit: NEVERMIND I SEE IT NOW. We're down to 1 spell per element. Nice.

Stick with str, will increase your overall dmg

[Clash Perez]

Wivre Gorget/Orochi Nodowa+1/Fort Torque.

Is there a wiki page listing possible gorget augments? I can't seem to find one.

[Alistaire]

There's also Amber Key Carapace Gorget, max stats +3 STR +7 atk +2 store tp. Easy fight to do.

[solkanar]

would really like a walk through of how to cleave on blu if anyone has one plz intresting in doing ti

Interested in this as well, I assume it's a little more than just charged whisker.

[Alistaire]

Interested in this as well, I assume it's a little more than just charged whisker.

Set MAB atmas, go /rdm, gather mobs with occultation/ss/phalanx/aquaveil up, Whirl of Rage -> Actinic Burst -> Charged Whisker -> Dream Flower. Set a 2nd nuke like Thermal Pulse since Charged Whisker has a long recast.

Depending on the mobs some things may vary, you may want to gather > sleep to rebuff, if you do that it goes Dream Flower -> wait Dream Flower recast -> Charged Whisker -> Whirl of Rage -> Dream Flower

Best mobs are non-spellcasting mobs that either agro sound or link by sound. Mobs agroing/linking by sight means a lot of running around. Good mobs are frogs in la theine/mis, crabs in mis/grauberg, puks in altepa (though those get instant tp in some conditions, end up getting knocked around a lot) Efts in Konschat are alright but spread a bit thin. And there's probly other spots I'm not thinking of.

[etelosbo]

Set MAB atmas, go /rdm, gather mobs with occultation/ss/phalanx/aquaveil up, Whirl of Rage -> Actinic Burst -> Charged Whisker -> Dream Flower. Set a 2nd nuke like Thermal Pulse since Charged Whisker has a long recast.

Depending on the mobs some things may vary, you may want to gather > sleep to rebuff, if you do that it goes Dream Flower -> wait Dream Flower recast -> Charged Whisker -> Whirl of Rage -> Dream Flower

Best mobs are non-spellcasting mobs that either agro sound or link by sound. Mobs agroing/linking by sight means a lot of running around. Good mobs are frogs in la theine/mis, crabs in mis/grauberg, puks in altepa (though those get instant tp in some conditions, end up getting knocked around a lot) Efts in Konschat are alright but spread a bit thin. And there's probly other spots I'm not thinking of.

I like mandys in altepa the cactus is easy to avoid.

I never set whirl, each blu will do it a little different from all the different ways I've seen posted, so just find what works for you.

My routine that works perfect for me: /rdm like mentioned above, same buffs but I add warm-up, and reactor cool for the pull. Go pull and dream flower at camp. Enervation > memento mori > BA > Whisker > ABurst > Thermal > End.

[Kegsay]

Has anyone done large scale tests on AF3+2 set bonus proc rate? I assume its 1/2/3/5% for 2/3/4/all pieces, but some kind of testing would be awesome.

[Clash Perez]

Best mobs are non-spellcasting mobs that either agro sound or link by sound. Mobs agroing/linking by sight means a lot of running around. Good mobs are frogs in la theine/mis, crabs in mis/grauberg, puks in altepa (though those get instant tp in some conditions, end up getting knocked around a lot) Efts in Konschat are alright but spread a bit thin. And there's probly other spots I'm not thinking of.

Anything that is aggresive to spellcasting works like a charm. Cast something with a long cast time (I typically use stoneskin) and they come rushing from well outside of the normal sneak aggro range. Detector mobs work pretty well for this, and the ones in Uleg are within exp range of the dominion sergeant.

[arus2001]

Should one assume some level of -PDT/EVA and movement speed to do AoE farming? Even just singling chigoes the other day working on a sword toward DA% path, getting 2-3 could result in losing 500+ HP pretty quick.

[Kegsay]

For 'cleave' farming I used Charged Whisker / Thermal Pulse / Dream Flower. Gather with +12% (don't lose too much HP as a result) then Dream Flower sleep them. /RDM works well (MAB / phalanx). Atmas are Ultimate/MinikinM/Beyond. Then it's just charged > dream > thermal = dead. Usually it's wise to have lights pre-built. Linking monsters preferable (Leeches in konschtat, detectors with magic/sound in uleg/grauberg/misareaux, mandies (tahrongi/altepa), flies (la theine) or frogs (la theine/misareaux), etc..). Use flash liberally as well as Whirl stun.

Gear wise, MAB+ works well so hq staves/mavi hands and feet/int rings/etc

[Yugl]

Is there a wiki page listing possible gorget augments? I can't seem to find one.

No idea. Crit+3 is the goal.

[Atoreis]

AoE:
1. Atmas - Blinding horn, Ultimate, Lion - Can use MM w/o capped Azure otherwise recover mp from soothing chests.
2. Pulling gear - 44% pdt in equip day 50% night
3. Buffs prepull - Phalanx, Taco, Stoneskin (430 for me), Cocoon, Battery - never tried Reactor but should be good to add
4. Fastest kill - CA+efflux whirl -> dream -> BA Charged - safe and fastest - dream in pdt gear you don't need macc
5. Pro kill - Dream flower -> 0-10 Fantod -> BA Charged one shot

Memento doesn't stack with Ascetic tonic (which is better and should be in chest every pull pretty much).
With 50% pdt,taco,cocoon,phalanx you can pull all (about 30?) mandragoras (Decent challenge) in Altepa easily.
My charged with tonic and BA and w/o Fantods do around 6k.
If you are getting raped by ~10 mobs then check them they are probably VT-IT (I once pulled and slept 10 IT dolls for exp pt but that require a little skill and experience in doing it)

[Alistaire]

AoE:
1. Atmas - Blinding horn, Ultimate, Lion - Can use MM w/o capped Azure otherwise recover mp from soothing chests.
2. Pulling gear - 44% pdt in equip day 50% night
3. Buffs prepull - Phalanx, Taco, Stoneskin (430 for me), Cocoon, Battery - never tried Reactor but should be good to add
4. Fastest kill - CA+efflux whirl -> dream -> BA Charged - safe and fastest - dream in pdt gear you don't need macc
5. Pro kill - Dream flower -> 0-10 Fantod -> BA Charged one shot

Memento doesn't stack with Ascetic tonic (which is better and should be in chest every pull pretty much).
With 50% pdt,taco,cocoon,phalanx you can pull all (about 30?) mandragoras (Decent challenge) in Altepa easily.
My charged with tonic and BA and w/o Fantods do around 6k.
If you are getting raped by ~10 mobs then check them they are probably VT-IT (I once pulled and slept 10 IT dolls for exp pt but that require a little skill and experience in doing it)

Just use Ice Spikes (assuming /rdm) lasts 3 minutes instead of 2 and no set points involved. I've found sometimes though lag or w/e will cause something that gets slept same time it hits you to have the spike damage wake it right back up.

[Draylo]

Yeah its retarded, happened to me once during Brothers ENM on BLM lol, never used it again for that.

[Atoreis]

Just use Ice Spikes (assuming /rdm) lasts 3 minutes instead of 2 and no set points involved. I've found sometimes though lag or w/e will cause something that gets slept same time it hits you to have the spike damage wake it right back up.

Yeah its retarded, happened to me once during Brothers ENM on BLM lol, never used it again for that.

Hehe so looks good I don't use it ^^

[Draylo]

Eh it only happens occasionally, I try to buff up with ice spikes etc but I get really lazy after a while of farming on blu.... Normally just SS + occulation + cocoon and that's it lol.

[Plow]

In the news today...



wtf? 5/8 of those were perfectly fine. I can see them changing Seedspray cause it doesn't really fit the criteria in the first place...and good to see about Blitz/1k but why the other 5?

Also, I asked last page what people thought about meritting DEX for a primary Almace BLU, no responses...anyone got thoughts on that at all?

Edit: NEVERMIND I SEE IT NOW. We're down to 1 spell per element. Nice.

There's that, which is totally sensible, but I think there's also more. The idea behind !! was clearly to get more people involved. However, aside from BLM, I don't think they really wanted to try to "force" things in so much as blu was. BLU definitely isn't nearly as "proc or gtfo" as blm is, there's just virtually no reason at all to bring a blm to much of anything aside from proccing.

What's amusing is that brd is pretty much right in that category along with blm outside of pulling for exp parties, but they're still left with just 1 per day, which can be covered by blm/brd lol.


Also, about cleaving: don't forget spikes! (edit: just noticed the spikes discussion in the last few posts lol)