Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Revitozu]

so

The upcoming major version update will see the following adjustments made to Abyssea:

The following blue magic spells will no longer be used to trigger enemy weaknesses:
Death Ray / Blitzstrahl / Hecatomb Wave / 1000 Needles / Frost Breath / Firespit / Regurgitation / Seedspray

This happened, right? >.> I didn't see anything about it in the Version Update notes, or am I just oblivious?

[Draylo]

That's true, they didn't mention it.

[Odin'sLaw]

i just wish it wasn't maestrum they kept hate having to stand on the mobs feet just to be in range for a spell

[Cyprias]

so



This happened, right? >.> I didn't see anything about it in the Version Update notes, or am I just oblivious?

Pretty sure it was slapped in the "Abyssea Adjustments" section of the update notes. The format is just so confusing that it seems that some things were not put in the update when they really are.

[Desideratum]

I wasn't sure if this should go here or in the RQ thread, but since it's specifically BLU related, I figured this was my safer bet.

I'm generally not a gimp it up kind of player, but my LS really wants me to get my BLU to 90 ASAP. Thus far I've just been getting every single spell that I can learn, no matter how obscure or far flung, but obviously that's going to slow me down considerably and my LS will get all mad faced at me or whatever.

So what spells 60-90 are absolute necessities, which are currently skip-able (I'll go back for them later), and which should I not even bother with?

I don't need anyone to list every single spell. I just want to know which spells I'm definitely going to want to grab first, and then I'll sort the rest out later. Thanks!

[Yugl]

Headbutt
Disseverment
Quad Connundrum
Battery Charge
Animating Wail
Goblin Rush
Cure
Occultation
Actinic
Winds
SubSmash
Auroral
Acrid Stream
Empty Thrash
Benthic
Dream Flower
Everyone's Grudge
Vanity Dive
Whirl of Rage
Charged Whisker
Leafstorm
Thermal Pulse
Memento Mori
Enervation
Cocoon
Diamondhide

[Sylvrdragon]

so I'm working on my BA+ Whisker set, but some pieces just aren't as cut and dry these days. Two slots specifically: Legs and Body. For legs, AF3+2 or Teal? For body: Loki's or Teal?

So far; I only have the +1 feet, so I'm not getting the full BA bonus to the modifiers yet, though I intend to work on that piece very soon, so if possible, let me know which is best in both cases. Thanks in advance!

Edit: Forgot to mention Atmas. At the moment, I'm running with Ultimate, Beyond, and Blinding Horn (Lion will replace Beyond when I get it). Would RR beat Beyond with +1 Feet? +2?

[Yugl]

Loki + AF3+2. RR Should beat beyond, but I haven't tested it.

[Sylvrdragon]

My Mavi Mintan +2 isn't giving me the 2/tick MP that it's supposed to be... I'll check it again once I'm outside of Abyssea and see if it has anything to do with that, but needless to say, I'm a bit pissed.

Edit: Working now... =/ I'll be keeping an eye on this...

[mightyg]

Anyone notice if the job trait cap changes affected any of ours?

[Scrooge]

I'm constantly told Goblin Rush is the second most powerful spell behind Quad. Continuum. By comparison, how does Delta Thrust and Vanity Dive stack up? I realize, DT has plague to it, is it worth it to have set over GR?

[Odin'sLaw]

on giga's in la the i'm doing about 560-760 with Delta with RR MM Apoc goblin's is going from 700-1.3k and Quad is going from 1.2-1.6k if i'm using efflux i can get 2k out of gr and 2.4 from Quad but not using str atma does hurt the damage a little

[Raen Ryong]

I'm constantly told Goblin Rush is the second most powerful spell behind Quad. Continuum. By comparison, how does Delta Thrust and Vanity Dive stack up? I realize, DT has plague to it, is it worth it to have set over GR?

Completely subjective, but on a damage scale from my observations it seems to go

QC > GR > VD > DT

[Vathris]

Im unsure on what to merit on attributes... i currently have 4 on STR and DEX, should i change all to DEX for CDC ¿? Im an Elvaan and on /nin i get 84STR and 77DEX, on /thf its 83STR and 79DEX...

What did you guys merit on attributes?

[Odin'sLaw]

Im unsure on what to merit on attributes... i currently have 4 on STR and DEX, should i change all to DEX for CDC ¿? Im an Elvaan and on /nin i get 84STR and 77DEX, on /thf its 83STR and 79DEX...

What did you guys merit on attributes?

just remember that str effects your spells also so even with the slight buff to dex you might be reducing your spell damage by more

[Vathris]

I know =/ thats why im 4 on each for now.
Also, with the new cap on crit damage+, what are you guys getting for atmas now?

[Draylo]

Been tanking a lot lately and I've found /mnk to be awesome. Used to do tanking as /nin but I've since changed to /mnk for most of it unless I really need the grellow proc from /nin (which I normally don't). Counterstance + Counter + GH is nice for countering majority of the attacks in addition to the 8 Occultation shadows.

[Tashan]

Im unsure on what to merit on attributes... i currently have 4 on STR and DEX, should i change all to DEX for CDC ¿? Im an Elvaan and on /nin i get 84STR and 77DEX, on /thf its 83STR and 79DEX...

What did you guys merit on attributes?

From playing many games, I've always found that whenever you're buffing your character it's always best to play boost your PC's best stats rather than trying to balance them out unless your best stats are already capped out.

On BLU/NIN (ignoring merits) my STR is 80, DEX73, VIT78, AGI70, INT68, MND75, CHR71 averaging out at 73(rounded down). Fully merited, my STR is 15 points above average while fully merited DEX would only be 8 points above average.

With capped STR not achievable without some OTT buff like Transcedency, I choose to make STR as high as possible rather than tryiing to balance my stats evenly.

If I were a Mithra, I'd probably do the same for DEX.

Hope this helps, Tashan

Been tanking a lot lately and I've found /mnk to be awesome. Used to do tanking as /nin but I've since changed to /mnk for most of it unless I really need the grellow proc from /nin (which I normally don't). Counterstance + Counter + GH is nice for countering majority of the attacks in addition to the 8 Occultation shadow

That sounds interesting. I've been considering a different sub since I want my HP to be a lot higher for tanking too.

Can you provide some data of you using /MNK? I'll level it for certain if it's worth it.

[Yugl]

STR is better to cap because you're primarily looking at its benefits (WSC, fSTR, and BLU ATT) in comparison to:

dDEX capped: DEX will only benefit WSC and will not help BLU ATT; STR is the more common MOD
dDEX near capped: DEX will benefit critical hit rate (Talking about WS primarily here); DEX quite possibly wins in this case, but it depends since the extra DEX merits can equal 0.1%-9% increase in critical hit rate
dDEX not even close to capped: DEX will benefit critical hit at by 0.1% per merit; however, in these situations, fSTR and BLU ATT will be lacking entirely

Completely subjective, but on a damage scale from my observations it seems to go

QC > GR > VD > DT

Chances are this is just a gear issue. Delta is 20% STR 50% VIT and VD is 50% DEX. Both are fTP=3 when you count DT's extra hits. In other words, it boils down to reduced accuracy for 3fTP on DT (Which is a legitimate argument for VD) versus an extra 20% STR MOD (Which is pretty significant considering it's STR). I'm guessing most of your spell gear slants towards STR/DEX rather than VIT though.

[Atoreis]

Chances are this is just a gear issue. Delta is 20% STR 50% VIT and VD is 50% DEX. Both are fTP=3 when you count DT's extra hits. In other words, it boils down to reduced accuracy for 3fTP on DT (Which is a legitimate argument for VD) versus an extra 20% STR MOD (Which is pretty significant considering it's STR). I'm guessing most of your spell gear slants towards STR/DEX rather than VIT though.

It's hard to not have a set for Delta tho when your main damage spell is also STR/VIT...