Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Priran]

Hey, I even get resists on BLM too, much more frequently than I get with nukes or enfeebles while i'm on my RDM. Aspiring for 60 quite often when i've also aspired for over 200, on the same mob in the same situation, is resisting. I resist quite often with BLM on dark magic, even with dark staff. Come bash me.

wow 200 MP aspirs that's quite an accomplishment

Nothing to say, now you have to result to playground insults. Oooooookay!

Ok then, let me elaborate. I've never seen an Aspir for over 120 MP, so I assume it's impossible for an Aspir to exceed 200 MP.

Except maybe in Dynamis, in which case that's a really shitty batch of test mobs.

[Nagamaki]

I didn't say the higher resist chance wasn't true, it very well might be because of the dual nature of the spells (the fact that they both weaken the mob and buff/restore you at the same time).

However, you originally worded it like you came to this conclusion based on RDM experience alone, which is simply not a good comparison job. I bet RDM Divine magic gets resisted a lot too, so someone with RDM only might think Divine magic is less accurate than other magic, and he would be quite wrong.

[Lordwafik]

divine magic is actually one of those magics, despite having a shitty skill in it and no +divine skill gear, Is very unresisted. I use it alot in KRT, it's rare that my banish2 resists. Unlike with dark magic, on the same skill level, gives me way more resists than banish does, I hardly hear any monks complain about the need for re-banishing on the ghosts (when im the only one doing it), and if there was a resist, they'd let me know.

Possibly the nature of the spell? Maybe.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

divine magic is actually one of those magics, despite having a shitty skill in it and no +divine skill gear, Is very unresisted. I use it alot in KRT, it's rare that my banish2 resists. Unlike with dark magic, on the same skill level, gives me way more resists than banish does, I hardly hear any monks complain about the need for re-banishing on the ghosts (when im the only one doing it), and if there was a resist, they'd let me know.

Possibly the nature of the spell? Maybe.

Or maybe undead are weak to light magic...

[aurik]

Banish gets resisted all the time in KRT, but most mages don't listen when we ask for reapplication ><

[Lordwafik]

I always ask "did banish stick" and you say "yes". Silence aurik .

Or maybe undead are weak to light magic...

I have a feeling that this guy makes 100 bucks anytime he states the obvious, because it seems that is the only things his posts are composed of.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

I always ask "did banish stick" and you say "yes". Silence aurik .

Or maybe undead are weak to light magic...

I have a feeling that this guy makes 100 bucks anytime he states the obvious, because it seems that is the only things his posts are composed of.

I only state it some people seem to not notice it.

[DrObvious]

Time to derail this derail. Banish defense down effect can get resisted(unlike say dia whose effect is never resisted despite the damage the spell does)?

[Lordwafik]

Time to derail this derail. Banish defense down effect can get resisted(unlike say dia whose effect is never resisted despite the damage the spell does)?

yep

I only state it some people seem to not notice it.

This is not allakhazam, people know about stuff here. That's the problem with alot of people, because you dont state 100% of the obvious facts in each and every post, someone tries to quickly correct your post since you are obviously a moron who doesnt know facts.

[Koyangi]

divine magic is actually one of those magics, despite having a shitty skill in it and no +divine skill gear, Is very unresisted. I use it alot in KRT, it's rare that my banish2 resists. Unlike with dark magic, on the same skill level, gives me way more resists than banish does, I hardly hear any monks complain about the need for re-banishing on the ghosts (when im the only one doing it), and if there was a resist, they'd let me know.

Possibly the nature of the spell? Maybe.

Why are you doing the Banishing in KRT? I resist like 1/20 casts of Banish 3, and its way more effective than Banish 2.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

divine magic is actually one of those magics, despite having a shitty skill in it and no +divine skill gear, Is very unresisted. I use it alot in KRT, it's rare that my banish2 resists. Unlike with dark magic, on the same skill level, gives me way more resists than banish does, I hardly hear any monks complain about the need for re-banishing on the ghosts (when im the only one doing it), and if there was a resist, they'd let me know.

Possibly the nature of the spell? Maybe.

Why are you doing the Banishing in KRT? I resist like 1/20 casts of Banish 3, and its way more effective than Banish 2.

Either:
Because he's right, always.

or

This isn't alla you are expected to know why

[Lordwafik]

Silence moron. I'm not always right, and I admit to it.

Here's why I banish in KRT : Because the white mages dont, and I like to keep chains going when the mnks are freaking "BANISH PLEASE" when they get a Haunt.

Once again, joethemoron assumes thought trails, when he needs to find a real one of his own. *States the obvious about joe*

[BRP]

From what monster does BLU learn Banish? Oh wai-

DERAIL

[Genosync]

Silence moron. I'm not always right, and I admit to it.

Here's why I banish in KRT : Because the white mages dont, and I like to keep chains going when the mnks are freaking "BANISH PLEASE" when they get a Haunt.

Once again, joethemoron assumes thought trails, when he needs to find a real one of his own. *States the obvious about joe*

Wafik... you're being an idiot, and ignoring obvious things and treating them as that you're right.

Unresisted banish on ghosts in krt with low base skill and no extras? Weak to light, high MND as RDM, etc.

Dark Magic resisted everywhere? Not everything weak to dark, it's a skill-only calculation (as far as data shows at the time), stats have no effect, so with a lower skill you will by default see higher resists.

You're just being stupid about it and actually ignoring the obvious things, even when you're saying their obvious.

Get some data with BLM resists on dark magic, and then some BLM casting Banish2 on mobs in krt. thx

PS: This is probably the only few pages I have ever seen where I agree with Maxx and think you're a complete idiot.

[Koyangi]

Silence moron. I'm not always right, and I admit to it.

Here's why I banish in KRT : Because the white mages dont, and I like to keep chains going when the mnks are freaking "BANISH PLEASE" when they get a Haunt.

Once again, joethemoron assumes thought trails, when he needs to find a real one of his own. *States the obvious about joe*

Then theres something even more wrong than you Banishing ghosts, its the fact your whm's aren't doing it, and you know that Banish 3 > Banish 2. I would think that since you complain about shitty rdm's in your pt's you'd at least make sure the job that's supposed to do the Banishing in KRT(whm) does the banishing.

P.S. I'm on my toes well enough (I do enough burn pt's nowadays anyway, can't even remember last regular PT I had) where I know when a ghost is being pulled, I will have Banish 3 on them before mnk's even engage.

[aurik]

Actually, I much prefer whms and rdms alike to use banish2. Banish3 costs a lot, the damage sucks compared to 3 monks smashing at it, it takes a long time to cast, and I just LOVE chasing a lemure to the mages so that when it aoe drain it sucks hp from the mages.

The chance to remove weapon penalty seems similar, and that's all I care about really.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Wow...back on topic. I'm finding BLU should get fucking Wise gear. RDM wouldnt miss it.

[Demosthenes11]

Wow...back on topic. I'm finding BLU should get fucking Wise gear. RDM wouldnt miss it.

Seriously...every time a rdm equips chausable, god kills a kitten

Please think of the god damn kittens

[Elcura]

I have all of like 5 Divine magic skill, and in a 3 hour KRT PT I got resisted on Banish 2 once. Why do RDMs do it? Cause some WHMs don't, it's not a critical flaw either, there's absolutely nothing wrong with a RDM banishing and anyone who thinks there is something wrong with it is an idiot plain and simple.

PS Koyangi, I hate when WHMs banish 3 right off the bat and pull hate, it's annoying enough that KRT is so monotonous it's sickening to have to do extra running around. Banish 2 and Dia 2 is all ghosts need, that and Banish 2 will not pull hate and give the same effect for less MP.

In anycase, the only dark magic RDMs use effectively is Stun, Aspir and Drain are shit, Bio II sucks ass in most situations.

[Koyangi]

Actually, I much prefer whms and rdms alike to use banish2. Banish3 costs a lot, the damage sucks compared to 3 monks smashing at it, it takes a long time to cast, and I just LOVE chasing a lemure to the mages so that when it aoe drain it sucks hp from the mages.

The chance to remove weapon penalty seems similar, and that's all I care about really.

Banish 3 + af2 gloves = 15 second ghost ftw