Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[stormos]

Question time!!!

Where in MtZhayolm are Waomoras? How do I get to them... andddd...

what does it take to kill them? I need to know how impossible it will be for me to find help to kill them for Cannonball skill. I'm missing loads of skills now cuz I have no LS and thus no one to help me learn things x.x

can a WAR/NIN + WHM + BLU/WHM combo kill them? or a NIN/WAR+ BLU/WHM?

There are easier ones that con d/c>T to Lv75 in halvung. There's 2 ways to get to them. One way is to go through halvung but you need 4 people to operate those levers. Another way is to go through mount zhayolm but you need access to the metal plate and go zone into halvung at a entrance that escapes me at the moment. The actual location of wamps in halvung is the NW corner of the map. I did this with a nin and myself blu/whm.

[NynJa]

at L-5/6 of the first Halvung Map theres some Wamo's, but they're near Puddings and Clusters as well IIRC.

[Genosync]

Question time!!!

Where in MtZhayolm are Waomoras? How do I get to them... andddd...

what does it take to kill them? I need to know how impossible it will be for me to find help to kill them for Cannonball skill. I'm missing loads of skills now cuz I have no LS and thus no one to help me learn things x.x

can a WAR/NIN + WHM + BLU/WHM combo kill them? or a NIN/WAR+ BLU/WHM?

A. BST Friend
B. Halvung, front section
C. lol

[Tanthalas]

Heres a few good Blu questions about setting job traits for the higher levels:

Is setting auto refresh worth it? It looks like it takes a shit-ton of points. How about attack or magic attack bonus? Do blu try to go for any of the traits or are they all just completely shitty?

Auto-Refresh is definitely worth it on BLU. Whereas on SMN, the 1 MP/Tick isn't that much compared to the game's highest MP pool job, it's a different story with BLU. Blue Mages don't have huge MP pools, and like PLD, that 1 per tick makes a huge difference. Add that to Vermillion Cloak and Sanction Refresh and you've got yourself 3 MP/Tick all on your own.

Yes, it does take a shit-ton of points, but whenever my magic list gets reset (pre 75), I had always set the first 4 spells to Auto-Refresh (Voracious, Frightful, Self-Destruct, Light of Penance) first, and then proceed to play with what points I had left for the rest.

Attack Bonus used to be a favorite of mine until I actually ran it through the parser and found that +10 Attack makes minimal difference in the actual results. It's good to have up to mid-60's, when Death Scissors is still a favorite on many BLU magic lists.

Magic Attack Bonus still eludes me. I never use Burst Affinity anymore as I find it's a hindrance on my MP to use any magical spells. It's like magic bursting as a WHM/BLM -- for me at least. Somewhere in the 50's, I think I stopped using MP gear altogether, never equipped an elemental staff again, and completely went melee-gear. No tests though, just my thoughts.

Conserve MP is horrible. The trait activated through BLU spells, I think, must be like Conserve MP +5 or something. After using the Diamondhide spell 50+ times (costs 99 MP), it saved me 7 MP or so about 7 times. Saving 7% MP cost at such a low proc rate to me isn't good. The idea is great though, to have Conserve MP on BLU--it appealed to me as well, and I'm sure all of you who equip it still think it's the greatest thing in the world. Go run your own tests and you'll understand me, I think.

[Lazureus]

Got Cannonball at the camp with puddings and bombs. DRG/RDM tanked them lol. He got me Amplification in the process..

^.^

[pii]

Conserve MP is good for me, notice it working nicely with cutting down mp cost for 50% .. maybe you haven't used it enough to notice

[FFXIFlux]

You'd need more tests to mean anything, but Conserve MP doesn't seem bad to me. Casting cure 2 I got:
24MP 39
22MP 5
18MP 2
16MP 2
13MP 2
12MP 2

Which was around 6 or 7%.

So far it seems worth equipping to me.

[Fatter]

Back to a basic question: I've seen lists include 4 of the killer effects

Beast Killer: Sprout smack(4) + Wild oats(4) or 1000 needles (62)
Undead Killer: Smite of Rage(34) + Bludgeon(18)
Lizard Killer: Claw cyclone(20) + Foot kick(1)
Plantoid killer: Power Attack(4) + Mandible bite(44)

and also that if you set 2 physical spells of one family, you get the killer effect of the mob family weak to those spells. By this logic, are you able to get all killer effects? Or just these four?

[FFXIFlux]

Well Enervation seems... interesting. Frightful Roar won't overwrite it. It's duration is... odd, on level 0 worms the def and mgk break portions were wearing off at 15 second or 30 second times seemingly at random. It took Water II from 183 to 199 on rabbits, 178 to 194 on worms, and Water from 68 to 74 on rabbits and 65 to 71 on worms.

No poor defenceless bunnies were harmed in the testing of that spell. Really...

[Priran]

Back to a basic question: I've seen lists include 4 of the killer effects

Beast Killer: Sprout smack(4) + Wild oats(4) or 1000 needles (62)

and also that if you set 2 physical spells of one family, you get the killer effect of the mob family weak to those spells. By this logic, are you able to get all killer effects? Or just these four?

Um, 1000 Needles is magic.

[Fatter]

Back to a basic question: I've seen lists include 4 of the killer effects

Beast Killer: Sprout smack(4) + Wild oats(4) or 1000 needles (62)

and also that if you set 2 physical spells of one family, you get the killer effect of the mob family weak to those spells. By this logic, are you able to get all killer effects? Or just these four?

Um, 1000 Needles is magic.

Got those from a BLU job trait site. But my question stands.

[Airshort7]

Kk so I'm trying to learn Hysterric Barrage but don't really know where to go :/

I went to Arrapego Reaf but the lamia I found are all IT++++++

Anywhere else with weaker lamia?

[Priran]

Kk so I'm trying to learn Hysterric Barrage but don't really know where to go :/

I went to Arrapego Reaf but the lamia I found are all IT++++++

Anywhere else with weaker lamia?

The weakest Lamia are the ones by the Arrapago zone so no, you're fucked

[NynJa]

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/jobs.html ... =39;page=1

alla thread, but this guy seems to have tested dmg from physical blu spells

[Moochi]

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/jobs.html ... =39;page=1

alla thread, but this guy seems to have tested dmg from physical blu spells

This test doesn't tell me anything I didn't know already. That guy doesn't know what he's talking about too.

- A strength swing of 15 has NO effect on "physical" blue magic damage. In general, Strength increase due to main job level changing from 31 to 75 had NO effect on translating the damage curve. Blue Mage should probably not equip STR equipment, eat STR food, or set STR boosting spells.

Huh?! STR does helps physical spells.

[NynJa]

hey, it is alla....

but it could merely be that even with +15 or -15 STR, he was hitting some cap in damage.

[Razz]

Dont know if you people know this or not, but just to confirm that you can learn moves from Limbus therefore you can probably learn from Dynamis too.

I got Lowing from Apollyon NW on the floor with buffalos :D

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Dont know if you people know this or not, but just to confirm that you can learn moves from Limbus therefore you can probably learn from Dynamis too.

I got Lowing from Apollyon NW on the floor with buffalos :D

So what are these mythical no exp mobs you cant learn moves from...

[aurik]

CFH'd mobs probably.

[Nny]

According to a FFXIO thread, it was a mistranslation. In the JP update notes, it says along the lines of "If you are too far away from the mob to get EXP, you cannot learn the skill." I don't even know about that though because I think someone posted before about learning when being too far away? I'm not 100% positive on that nor am I going to re-read a 60 page thread to find out.

but it could merely be that even with +15 or -15 STR, he was hitting some cap in damage.

The guys an idiot and you shouldn't trust the majority of what's posted as "tests" because most people don't understand what actually goes into makeing test, and all the right information he posted has been known days after the expansion came out.