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  1. #8581
    Blue Magic is Best Magic
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    Yeah enjoy it while it lasts. I highly doubt its intentional.

  2. #8582
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    It's likely that I will have an Almace soon. Am I understanding correctly that ATK is more important than STR for CDC inside Abyssea since Cruor buffs cap some part of the formula regarding STR?

    For example, I see a lot of recommendations for stuff like Cuchulain's Belt and Alcide's +1 hands and feet over their DEX + STR or DEX only counterparts.

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    The fSTR is the cap you're thinking about. Since fSTR's cap depends on base damage, you need roughly 52 STR more than the opposing mob's VIT.

  4. #8584
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    Weapon damage tier is used to determine fSTR cap with a higher tier allowing better multiplier? And damage tier is base damage * 0.11?

    Er, not multiplier. I mean that it just allows more STR to count toward the damage.

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    No, weapon rank determines fSTR cap. The lesser cap is the negative of Weapon Base DMG divided by nine. The upper cap is weapon base damage divided by nine and then you add 8. Almace 90 has 61 base damage. Divided by nine and floored, you get 6. Add 8 and you get 14 for the fSTR cap.

    fSTR = (Your STR + 4 - Mob VIT)/4

    Multiply 14 by 4 = 56

    Subtract 4 to get 52

    (Your STR - Mob VIT) = 52 is the cap.

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  7. #8587
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    AF3+2 Legs, or Tumblers?

  8. #8588
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    Tumblers. If you think your att is capped, it probably isn't.

  9. #8589
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    Can someone link the Charged Whiskers "Target Mobs" Guide. Someone did a really nice write up of the best things to CW in each Abyssea zone. I know it's in this thread because I remember reading it a month or 2 ago and wanting to go back to it. Buzz words like Charged Whiskers, on search, are pulling up all the gear posts but I don't see the one stating the ideal mobs to target.

    Edit: Also, what spell set is ideal (55 points) for Charged Whiskers? I know people do it differently but what are some of you guys's spell lists for it?

    Edit 2: Remember when Huckster made that spreadsheet for Cannonball back in the day and showed the top 3/4 items for each slot as well as spells to maximize stats/traits? He should do that for Charged Whiskers

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    Is this what you're looking for?

    http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/376...=1#post4539782

    Also there is a spreadsheet for CW iirc, I've just never used it, should find it a few pages from that post.

    edit: and found it

  11. #8591
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valisk View Post
    Can someone link the Charged Whiskers "Target Mobs" Guide. Someone did a really nice write up of the best things to CW in each Abyssea zone.
    I've used this write up in the past. Not sure if this is what you were talking about:

    http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/20...-on-blue-mage/

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannyl View Post
    I've used this write up in the past. Not sure if this is what you were talking about:

    http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/20...-on-blue-mage/
    Wow, yes. that's exactly what I was talking about. Could have sworn I read that on this site. Thanks.

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    Yay I'm glad people actually use my guide. d('_'

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    as long as my str isn't capped, which is better for typhoon w/o CA? str +6 mederi, areion or lithe? i have been seeing different claims about this.

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    Typhoon Secondary modifiers: AGI: 60% so hmmmm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenshyn View Post
    Typhoon Secondary modifiers: AGI: 60% so hmmmm.
    Because STR doesn't affect BT at all. amirite?

    Lithe are best under CA, worst case scenario they'll perform ~identically to a best case scenario for Mederi with STR+6 without CA. Areion potentially have a small lead on average outside CA but it's quite small and you're not always going to get the 3 base damage out of it that you'd need for this to occur. If you're using BT with CA I'd go for Lithe, otherwise it's a tossup between Areion's and Lithe depending on inventory/whether or not you expect to be capping fSTR.

    EDIT: There's also 3 acc on Lithe via DEX, personally hate seeing that spell miss.

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    It seems to miss a LOT. :\

  18. #8598
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    Yeah it's annoying.

  19. #8599
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothescar View Post
    It seems to miss a LOT. :\
    Some spells do not get the +20 (or +30 with physical potency merits) acc bonus.
    I have not tested BT in particular, but I have noticed the same thing.

  20. #8600
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    tbh lately I would consider damn near any mob type a target for CW burning. With the merging doing fun things I've had to sometimes switch to a different mob type each time I do it because someone is either randomly killing them lvling them up, AOE burning themselves, skilling up I think, and then random I have no idea what they are trying to dos

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