Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[dasva]

If that's cheating sign me up right away....

Whats your gear setup if you don't mind and spellset? I think my spellcast is fed up need to turn on the debugger and see whats what....

Hmmm I sorta forgot my spellset was just trying to see how high I could get really. Though doing the math pretty sure it could've done a bit more but probably just hit low pdif and didn't feel like doing it again.

Gear for that was
agi swd/genbu shield (fuck making a second swd)
mavi ammo
af3+1 head (yeah yeah I know need +2)
Arctier's Torque
the 8 agi set earrings
loki body
ocelot gloves
6 agi rings
um actually didn't have a back peice cause I had it on a mule and didn't feel like getting it
similar with belt so ended up just using warwolf but between those 2 slots could've cranked out another 12 agi.
af3+2 legs
lithe boots.

Some small obvious improvements and ya know remembering a couple of slots. Of course wyrmal synergy brings up possibilities (especially feet) if you are willing to just do them over and over till you get real lucky

[kenshyn]

Hmmm I sorta forgot my spellset was just trying to see how high I could get really. Though doing the math pretty sure it could've done a bit more but probably just hit low pdif and didn't feel like doing it again.

Gear for that was
agi swd/genbu shield (fuck making a second swd)
mavi ammo
af3+1 head (yeah yeah I know need +2)
Arctier's Torque
the 8 agi set earrings
loki body
ocelot gloves
6 agi rings
um actually didn't have a back peice cause I had it on a mule and didn't feel like getting it
similar with belt so ended up just using warwolf but between those 2 slots could've cranked out another 12 agi.
af3+2 legs
lithe boots.

Some small obvious improvements and ya know remembering a couple of slots. Of course wyrmal synergy brings up possibilities (especially feet) if you are willing to just do them over and over till you get real lucky

Cool looks like I need to farm a set of earrings

[dasva]

Unless you are super lucky you'd probably be better off getting the 4agi earrings... spent a week on non stop camping only napping during the small wait period after kill to get one of them .

[Atoreis]

Does set proc even stack in CA stat boost? I mean with af3+2 helm they add the same amount. Sure you didn't just hit it while it was casting for more dmg?

Also

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/5...0511181457.png

Dasva is a little obsessed about epeen BT kinda like me about HP build for MNK (Just do you guys know lol).

Yes CA and set can proc for x4 WSC.

Correct me if I am wrong Das but I think you did it before 50% cap was lifted off so now that would be 14.3k just from that.

Easily broken 20k with set bonus

[dasva]

Actually that was right after the 50% crit dmg cap change and it was barely more than my old one so I'm fairly certain I just rolled low pdif but oh well

[kenshyn]

Found my issue some bad gear swap macros. I am now pretty much full time /thf in Abyssea I been averaging around 8kish BT which isn't bad and my CDC's hit like a mack truck a non stop crit machine using RR/SS/GH. Haven't missed ninja sub yet its only been a weekend so I will keep testing. Even /thf I was easily AOEing mobs down without an issue this has me back fully loving blu again like coming back to my first love.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...alis/bt82k.png

[Kyte]

Your CDC damage shouldn't have changed by switching to /THF. If anything, it should be lower from not using Apoc.

[kenshyn]

Your CDC damage shouldn't have changed by switching to /THF. If anything, it should be lower from not using Apoc.

My CDC's crit more basically on apoc I see wild swings with GH/RR/SS I see more consistent crits I love it at the moment I am very happy... Basically I become a non stop crit hitting machine and get my guaranteed crits when SA is up. I now focus more on BT damage cause with that output of damage the mob doesn't live long and in a short fight dot really doesn't matter.

On apoc I see such constant flux in my damage maybe it's just me but since moving to /thf and those atamas mobs like glavoid and those you can't basically constantly tp on have me loving this setup. Hell its a blast on anything imho lol.

[Clash Perez]

Overall damage with Apoc will be better.

You're losing a lot of damage by dropping the 15% Triple Attack and 10% Dual Wield. Unless you're only fighting one mob per minute, /THF isn't worth the trade-off.

[kenshyn]

Mobs are dying in less than a minute or 2 I do 5k - 8k+ front load now how many 15% Triple attack swings do I get that passes my SA+CA+Eflux+bt damage again? Maybe its my crew but almost no mobs are living long at all enough for dot to pull ahead on any parse I run. If your not fast once the kill order is given you may not even get a chance to pull your weapon out and attack lol. You can't dot on a dead mob...

If fights lasted long time I could see apocs but the way we zerg and the insane damage of emp weapons the dot card just doesn't come into play that much for us these days its proc and kill the procing is the long pole and we can't do damage during procing cause simply we kill the mob to fast just trying to proc lol. I constantly have to tell people to get off the mob until procing is done...

[Atoreis]

How you manage to position yourself behind the mob with so much ppl?
What atma have you used before? You should be using GH RR Apoc so there should be no crit rate up by switching apoc to ss because ss is only crit damage not crit rate.
It's normal that /thf will be better if you have a lot ppl and mob will die in 1 min after full attack but whats the point in that? Should split into groups and get few times more.

[kenshyn]

Easy tank that holds hate and I walk in first then give the kill order lol. Recall its about front loading the tank has the hate until procs done and RED if we need it is always last so hardly ever a issue with mob spinning at the open of the kill order. Also Its pretty easy to TA+CDC the tank and then finish with BT from behind as well. Our group isn't that big and splitting would just mean that our proccers would be all over the place so PROC and Kill fast is how we do it...

If i have 8 ppl going I am happy now a days lol having the right jobs to split up atm I dont feel we have the mix so this way works for us....

Oh on the Atmas again I favor the biggest most consistent spikes I can get vs the wild swings of apoc so that's just me. My CDCs are more consistent and I feel I can count on the damage that comes out vs a apoc proc and of course the bonus to BT.

I have tested APOC Omni and AO and well really like my big criting hitting three and more focused on BT then CDC my CDC damage is now a bonus lol since going /thf....

[TheDirtyHobo]

Would you mind translating that into something readable? My head hurts from even trying.

[Draylo]

Any numbers with the new 2hr?

[kenshyn]

I wish I could get in to test that I wonder if it still has the old benefit and they just added the SC or was it a replacement.

[Sylvrdragon]

I'm switching to BLU now to play around with it. I'm gonna use it in Campaign so mobs might have enough HP to make it to the end.

I'm EXPECTING it to just add the SC properties to the spells, but I'm HOPING it gives you constant CA during Azure Lore...

[Vriska]

Someone write me out a 6 part SC that ends on CDC for double Light. :3

[TummieGaruda]

Someone write me out a 6 part SC that ends on CDC for double Light. :3

Quad. Cont > Cannonball > BT > Sub-Zero Smash > Goblin Rush > Chant du Cygne

This is as far as you can go because the cap on skillchains is 5

[kenshyn]

Try something simple like sub-zero smash -> Cannonball = Light -> CDC double light and MB Charged Whisker

[Sylvrdragon]

Well, I didn't get CA numbers from regular spells, and I didn't turn off Spellcast, so I switched gear after every cast and didn't see SC damage >.<

I did Disseverment > Goblin Rush > Benthic Typhoon > CA+Efflux > Quad and took an orc from 100% to 19%. The Quad hit for 5522, and judging by the jump in the mob's HP, definitely hit Darkness. By my calculation, the Darkness should have hit for 10,436 (Skillchain Bonus trait active with my normal spell set).