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  1. #861
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    Getting body slam is a joke @d.xarabard

    If its true thats you can learn spells at limbus/dynamis

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    The dragons live long enough to get off Bodyslam when you do Xarc? <.<a

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machazareel
    The dragons live long enough to get off Bodyslam when you do Xarc? <.<a
    The ones near DL do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kuno
    Quote Originally Posted by Machazareel
    The dragons live long enough to get off Bodyslam when you do Xarc? <.<a
    The ones near DL do.
    Duh..obviously his LS is so 1337 he can kill 10 Shadow Dragon mobs before one uses Body Slam....an ability which they like to spam about 50% of the time. If anything it has nothing to do with "staying alive long enough" and has everything to do with your stunners correctly stunning in order.

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    Is Cannonball and Amplification like the 3 sets of ToA beastman skills and each only learnable from a "type" of wamoura? i.e. Is Cannonball off Prince only and Amplification off Wamoura only or vice versa?

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    Fairly certain Amplification is from Flans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl
    Fairly certain Amplification is from Flans.
    Ah, that would make more sense then, lol. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lockecole
    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kuno
    Quote Originally Posted by Machazareel
    The dragons live long enough to get off Bodyslam when you do Xarc? <.<a
    The ones near DL do.
    Duh..obviously his LS is so 1337 he can kill 10 Shadow Dragon mobs before one uses Body Slam....an ability which they like to spam about 50% of the time. If anything it has nothing to do with "staying alive long enough" and has everything to do with your stunners correctly stunning in order.
    15 BLMs dropping Tier 4s on a dragon kind of leave it unable to do much >_>
    They take maybe 3 steps toward them before they fall to the ground. RDMs nuke as well, but yeah.

    It's how we've been making our way up to DL for as long as I can remember, and I've yet to see one get off Body Slam.

  9. #869
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machazareel
    15 BLMs dropping Tier 4s on a dragon kind of leave it unable to do much >_>
    They take maybe 3 steps toward them before they fall to the ground. RDMs nuke as well, but yeah.

    It's how we've been making our way up to DL for as long as I can remember, and I've yet to see one get off Body Slam.
    That's so lewt!

    But we usually store our TP to 300% on them for DL. Smart eh?!

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    Not really, that's what Opo charms and sleeping potions are for <.<

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    That takes a long time and costs money.

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    Costs money, yes.. the time involved is a non-factor, since our melees sleep TP while the mages clear the dragons =P

    Not saying it's the only way to go, but it works really well for us, and we generally maintain a 0 casualty rate on our way up the hill.

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    Well we mostly build TP on ying and yang anyways. Maybe a couple hits if the dragon doesn't survive the 1st wave of nukes (it happens, we don't usually have 15 BLMs.)

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    Do BLU spells critical hit?

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    on premise alone i think it's a matter of resistances and not crits, but i'd like to know as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kuno
    Do BLU spells critical hit?
    Most definately. Otherwise SA+Blue Magic would surely not make a difference aside from 100% acc for 1 hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jooeetheplatypus
    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kuno
    Do BLU spells critical hit?
    Most definately. Otherwise SA+Blue Magic would surely not make a difference aside from 100% acc for 1 hit.
    SA is special. I ment regular critical hits.

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    Im assuming you mean spells other than the ones with "Chance to critical with TP". I'd imagine so.

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    [quote=Not Kuno]
    Quote Originally Posted by Jooeetheplatypus
    Quote Originally Posted by "Not Kuno":487a1
    Do BLU spells critical hit?
    Most definately. Otherwise SA+Blue Magic would surely not make a difference aside from 100% acc for 1 hit.
    SA is special. I ment regular critical hits.[/quote:487a1]

    SA is not exactly special when subbed, just a crit... Plus theres the ones that specify theres a higher chance to crit with TP. Also antecdotally I have noticed crit like damage patterns. Sure theres no 'solid' proof but I'd say that given all this crits most likely do happen in Blue Magic Phys spells.

  20. #880
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    I don't believe weaponskills that don't have Crit mod can crit except from outside sources (Mighty Strikes, Sneak Attack). I'm not 100% positive on it but that's been my experience. Just an example, if it was true MNKs should be able to pull out 1800+ Asuran Fists just like WAR does with Rampage. However a MNKs "Peak" is hardly above they're average damage, and that can be contributed to by PDIF being the highest it possibly could be on all/most hits rather then crits. I've also used RR for a good portion of my WAR career and the numbers have always been extremely consistant.

    Considering this, I doubt non-Crit Mod spells can crit without an outside source, and even with the Crit Mod ones you need Burst Affnity to crit them.

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