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  1. #8801
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenshyn View Post
    With its Secondary modifiers: STR: 30% MND: 30% I use a STR heavy set similar to savage blade which has str 30% + mnd 50%.
    Some pieces are worth to change.

    I use Morri feet and af3+2 hands (they are a little worse for damage than Alky or Heafoc but has no -accuracy and has a chance for set bonus and -12%recast which is usually useful in the situations where you use Whirl IE: Whirl - Charged - Whirl (if resists) or cleave with Whirl outside abyssea )

  2. #8802
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    Yep yep I also lock in af3+2 gear for CA+Efflux bonus when I have those buffs up makes Whirl of Rage hit like a mack truck...

  3. #8803
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenshyn View Post
    Yep yep I also lock in af3+2 gear for CA+Efflux bonus when I have those buffs up makes Whirl of Rage hit like a mack truck...
    Well, legs should be use anyway efflux or not and head is obvious choice with CA up for all physical spells. W/o CA best would be Maat's probably followe by Morrigan.

    EDIT: Well sorry not followed by morrigan but Aias. 8STR> 4STR 4MND.. sorry.

  4. #8804
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    Awesome thanks

  5. #8805
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    Tried this combo for 2hr and it didn't work unless I did something wrong?

    Did BT > Ram, which did nothing, followed with CDC (didnt see SC due to gear swap) > Gob rush > fusion > cleave > swapped (gravitiation i think i saw) > quad (it died lol). Did we ever figure out what the best combo for a zerg would be?
    Any thoughts?

  6. #8806
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyosan View Post
    Dropping Apoc from any combination of atma may help you with consistently high numbers, but it's going to significantly lower your TP gain and overall DPS.

    If you're there to do actual damage rather than just masturbate over your WS numbers, stick with Apoc.
    Wait, I've been doing this wrong all these years. I always assumed I was "winning" with big numbers, unless someone had a parse running, in which case, yes Apoc is the way to go.

  7. #8807
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    Any thoughts?
    Well, the problem is, with CDC, you need to waste set points for sub-optimal spells (Ram Charge and/or Cannonball iirc) in order to get a decent chain that ends with double light. I suppose if you're gonna make a spell-set specifically for Azure Lure zerg, then it wouldn't much matter.

    It shouldn't be hard to make something with ~5-6 spells and end with CDC using this.

  8. #8808
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    Tried this combo for 2hr and it didn't work unless I did something wrong?

    Did BT > Ram, which did nothing, followed with CDC (didnt see SC due to gear swap) > Gob rush > fusion > cleave > swapped (gravitiation i think i saw) > quad (it died lol). Did we ever figure out what the best combo for a zerg would be?
    You did something wrong. I just did BT > ram and got frag like it should do. You sure both of them landed with lore up?

  9. #8809
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    Yeah I tried it out in this vid:



    Did BT > Ram at start and his HP barely moved and no animation. (:32 is start of SC.)

  10. #8810
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvrdragon View Post
    Well, the problem is, with CDC, you need to waste set points for sub-optimal spells (Ram Charge and/or Cannonball iirc) in order to get a decent chain that ends with double light. I suppose if you're gonna make a spell-set specifically for Azure Lure zerg, then it wouldn't much matter.

    It shouldn't be hard to make something with ~5-6 spells and end with CDC using this.
    Yeah I know, I was just curious for zerg purposes. Some fights would go real fast with a zerg w/2hr, like the video I posted. Looking at it, Ram Charge might be a longer animation even after the small effect, which would delay frag. Otherwise idk what went wrong.

  11. #8811
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    Needs more blinkmenot. I wanted to see what could've been a 10k darkness lol. Also yeah actually seeing the skillchains helps to time the next one. From the looks of it you were probably going to fast to continue chains for the most part

    Also you probably right about RC. It has a knockback animation that doesn't really do anything but add time

  12. #8812
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    God I love Azure Lore now. The other day I got Alexander Prime down to like 44% with AL then finished him normal BLU Zerg mode after recasts were up. It would have been even better if I hadn't missed Efflux to spell animations/blinking.

  13. #8813
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    You soloed it?

  14. #8814
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    Yeah I tried it out in this vid:



    Did BT > Ram at start and his HP barely moved and no animation. (:32 is start of SC.)
    That is baller I must admit...

  15. #8815
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    You soloed it?
    Yeah, he was pretty easy honestly. Only thing you have to worry about is his Terror move. It almost got me killed, but I managed to get a Magic Fruit off from about 1 hit away from death.

  16. #8816
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    for almace, i have the the str + shamshir is it worth doing da sword or should i wait til next update to see if the oat path gets better?

  17. #8817
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladydeathstrike View Post
    for almace, i have the the str + shamshir is it worth doing da sword or should i wait til next update to see if the oat path gets better?
    DA sword seems like the safer investment if you're planning for 95.

  18. #8818
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    BTW regarding the DA sword: Khalamari is an easy duo with BLU and RDM. Keep Prot5 and Cocoon up and Mantle Pierce was really weak most of the time but once it hit me for about 1500. Respawn time is 10-15, he moves fast and does not seem to aggro so pull him with Cannonball.

  19. #8819
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    You can also pin him solo.

  20. #8820
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    Don't even need to pin him, just use an eva build w/sub nin (not even atma, just gear)

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