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  1. #8881
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    As far as I know, the only BLU traits that are confirmed to stack in multiple tiers are Clear Mind and Dual Wield. But yeah, Byrthnoth, that's how that would work; if it does stack, you'd need to set four spells to get tier 2.

  2. #8882
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbobsonofgod View Post
    I'd like to note that in order to cast these spells you pretty much gotta be in "range" anyways, might as well , swing fucking swords while you're are there.
    lol. so god damn true. if anything just turn your character and turn back for TP and if and when red proc is RedLotus/Seraph least youll be ready!

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    So trying to get best posssible gear set for cw and here what we got anyone know of improvements

    Jupiters staff
    Gatta grip
    Thunder sachet
    Alias bonnet
    Shifting necklace (+5 dex easier to get than love)
    Novio earring
    Hectates earring
    Loki
    Wild gages (mithra new lvl 80 rse shit +8 dex)
    Thundersoul ring x2
    Nifty mantle
    Thanz belt (+8 dex belt from abyssea kon?
    +2 legs
    +2 feet

  4. #8884
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    +2 AF3 Hands
    Artemis' Medal (When moon phase is right - Probably First Quarter Moon to Full Moon and back which is +5 MAB thru +10 MAB)
    Spear Strap

    Edit: Would Hecate's Cape be better than a +5 DEX back? I recall someone saying to replace a +7 DEX ring with a MAB +3 one or was that simply a "gil saver"?

  5. #8885
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    DEX is better than MAB3. Gatta/Spear are equal damage. DEX back is best, but Vigilance+1 will give you the same DEX AND bonus STR (Best Goblin Rush/Disseverment piece). Cuchulain doubles as a CW and CDC piece at the cost of 1 DEX.

  6. #8886
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    DEX is better than MAB3. Gatta/Spear are equal damage. DEX back is best, but Vigilance+1 will give you the same DEX AND bonus STR (Best Goblin Rush/Disseverment piece). Cuchulain doubles as a CW and CDC piece at the cost of 1 DEX.
    Gatta = 2 DEX
    Spear = 3 DEX

    Unless OP meant Gatta +1. I was posting an upgrade assuming he was using the NQ he listed.

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    I thought he meant HQ, but ya.

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    Yea sry ment +1 strap. The +2 hands beat +8 dex? if I remember right they only enhance chain affinty and I always using burst on cw. As for artimas can anyone show me the spell cast code for equiping it when it would out prase the 5 dex? For chuclans mantle I was under thw impression atheliing was better for cdc. Bt if its better ill pck up one for itand cw.

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    If you want to know which is better, this is the CW calculator I made a while back: http://www.mediafire.com/?tifhxlg6sym7qk3

    Someone hosted on google doc, but idk how to find on that. Mob's INT hovers at 65-75 range typically (Sky NMs are the major exception). They shouldn't have MDB or MDT if cleaving unless we're talking Djinn type mobs.

  10. #8890
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylee View Post
    Yea sry ment +1 strap. The +2 hands beat +8 dex? if I remember right they only enhance chain affinty and I always using burst on cw. As for artimas can anyone show me the spell cast code for equiping it when it would out prase the 5 dex? For chuclans mantle I was under thw impression atheliing was better for cdc. Bt if its better ill pck up one for itand cw.
    +2 hands don't have any CA (think that's head) or BA (feet) enhancements; the relevant part for CW is that they have +10 MAB, which I'm pretty sure will slaughter 8 DEX.

  11. #8891
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    Yeah the AF3+2 hands (10 MAB) "handily" beats 8 dex, in addition it adds another 1% to catch a set proc.

    For a rough comparison 3 MAB = 5 DEX (well 5 dex beats it out by the tiniest of margins)

  12. #8892
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    I don't think the set proc even does anything when using BA with af3+2 boots anyways

  13. #8893
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    I don't think the set proc even does anything when using BA with af3+2 boots anyways
    What you mean?

    If you mean that will be overkill for most situations then yeah. If you think it wont add any damage then very wrong.
    If you get proc in abyssea with set that do around 6000 BA Charged then you will achieve about 9-10k.

  14. #8894
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    What I mean is the set bonus does the same thing as boosted CA/BA. Never seen a huge increase in dmg between nukes but then only using 2/5 peices odds are crap.

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    I might be wrong but set bonus and enhance from feet piece are completely different thing.
    I tho enhance from feet is similar to enhance from head for CA and set bonus is x3 multiplier for spell mod (when BA is x2 and then can stack for x4)

  16. #8896
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    Well that's sorta what I meant. That enhanced BA and plain set proc do the same thing. Not sure if anyone has tested if set can proc during BA I guess is what I'm getting at. Mostly I suppose because the extremely low proc rate + timer. I just know I've done alot of CW burning with 2 peices and have yet to see some dmg that was decently more than the previous CW given the same buff/debuffs

  17. #8897
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    ... .... ... ... . . . . . . ..... I just told you what set bonus do with BA it stacks for x4. Same goes for CA and I even said how much damage it do when stacked .. .... ... ....

  18. #8898
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    Prove it!

    Regardless was just stating what I meant how they effectively add the same amount since didn't know if they stacked

  19. #8899
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    After reviewing screenshots It went from 5k to 6.6k, which with twilight cape would kinda make sense, so I guess it was a day change, ignore me

  20. #8900
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Prove it!

    Regardless was just stating what I meant how they effectively add the same amount since didn't know if they stacked
    you mean something like this?

    http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/8070/charged.jpg

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