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  1. #8901
    Ridill
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    Hmmm only able to crank out 7600 though I suppose if I wanted to really try I'd get me a ascetics gambir .

    Hmmm guess I'll just chalk it up to my bad luck + horrible proc rate with only 2 then cause definitely done a few hundred thru all my burning lol

  2. #8902
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    About to start trying to Charged Whisker burn (trying to do the Khanda +2 and want to make it easier), but I need to know "Is this gear enough"

    Jupiters
    Spear Grip
    The +2 int sachet
    Aias Bonnet
    Love Torque
    +2 dex earring
    Moldy Earring
    Teal Body
    AF3 +1 hands
    Rajas / Thunder ring
    Nifty Mantle
    Warwolf Belt
    AF3 +2 legs
    AF3 +1 feet

    Is this enough to successfully burn?

    The Atmas I have for Charged Whisker are currently Ultimate, RR, and Kirin. Not the best I know.

  3. #8903
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    That's ok for starting gear; however, most of your damage will come from proper atma choices. Particularly, the lack of Lion and Blinding Horn means you don't benefit from a 60% affinity boost.

  4. #8904
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Hmmm only able to crank out 7600 though I suppose if I wanted to really try I'd get me a ascetics gambir .

    Hmmm guess I'll just chalk it up to my bad luck + horrible proc rate with only 2 then cause definitely done a few hundred thru all my burning lol
    I've been cleaving tahronghi for about 4 days now and have only seen 1 set proc and that was last night. My normal 5.2k on Mandies did 8.1k. So yea, it's only a 3% chance so "bad luck" is just a low percentage.

  5. #8905
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    Quote Originally Posted by transmit View Post
    About to start trying to Charged Whisker burn (trying to do the Khanda +2 and want to make it easier), but I need to know "Is this gear enough"

    Jupiters
    Spear Grip
    The +2 int sachet
    Aias Bonnet
    Love Torque
    +2 dex earring
    Moldy Earring
    Teal Body
    AF3 +1 hands
    Rajas / Thunder ring
    Nifty Mantle
    Warwolf Belt
    AF3 +2 legs
    AF3 +1 feet

    Is this enough to successfully burn?

    The Atmas I have for Charged Whisker are currently Ultimate, RR, and Kirin. Not the best I know.
    You wont max out and as previous poster said atam's are a big deal, I thought rr was nice at first but added almost 1.5k dmg when i swiched to lion and blinding horn. Also go out and get yourself a http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Thiazi%27s_Belt Joke to get and its an extra 2 dex on your build. Got PI on 3'ed kill and went 1/1 drop with no th.

  6. #8906
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    So Ultimate, Lion and Blinding Horn are good Atmas to use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by transmit View Post
    So Ultimate, Lion and Blinding Horn are good Atmas to use?
    Yes.

  8. #8908
    They're coming to take me away. Ha Ha!
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    You'll know a set proc when you get one:




    Ascetics wore off right as I started CW and I thought I'd have to follow up with Whirl or Pulse (if I was still setting it at that point). These days I cast with 3/5 +2 (Hands, Feet, Legs) and the set proc rate is still retarded low.

  9. #8909
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    Sometimes that does work to advantage though D; I hate when I accidentally azure stuff I'm not meaning to because of set procs.

  10. #8910
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    Can someone explain the Blue Magic Skill tiers for me and the effect that they have? Where does the currently-highest one start?

  11. #8911
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    Quote Originally Posted by StateofMind View Post
    Can someone explain the Blue Magic Skill tiers for me and the effect that they have? Where does the currently-highest one start?
    [[BLUSkill*0.11]*3] + 3 = X

    X is like the base damage of your weapon.

    Tiers refers to whole numbers after the 0.11 multiplication. The reason this is important is because there is no difference between 20,20.3,20.5,20.42, 20.31, and so forth once you floor them. They all come up as 20.

  12. #8912
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    [[BLUSkill*0.11]*3] + 3 = X

    X is like the base damage of your weapon.

    Tiers refers to whole numbers after the 0.11 multiplication. The reason this is important is because there is no difference between 20,20.3,20.5,20.42, 20.31, and so forth once you floor them. They all come up as 20.
    Ah I see, thank you. Are they floored or rounded? 20.2 == 20.5 == 20.9?

  13. #8913
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    Quote Originally Posted by StateofMind View Post
    Ah I see, thank you. Are they floored or rounded? 20.2 == 20.5 == 20.9?
    floored. You don't get the next tier till you're past the next whole number.

  14. #8914
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    Ah awesome, I always wondered what that formula was. I think this just proves I should be using Mavi Tathlum when casting physical spells. 407 skill versus 412. Neat!

  15. #8915
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    I thought affinity capped at 50%? Does Blinding Horn + Lion just allow use of 2 dex swords in place of jupiters?

  16. #8916
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koyangi View Post
    I thought affinity capped at 50%? Does Blinding Horn + Lion just allow use of 2 dex swords in place of jupiters?
    It does not, and elemental staves are a different term. It's the magian staves that are the same term as atmas.

  17. #8917
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    so the 60% includes the Jupiters + those 2 atma?

  18. #8918
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koyangi View Post
    so the 60% includes the Jupiters + those 2 atma?
    No those 2 atmas are 60%. jupiters is 15% multiplied after

  19. #8919
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    More than likely belongs in the RQT, but I figured I'd get a better reply here- do the Magic Def. Down effects of Benthic Typhoon and Enervation stack? I'm assuming no, but I figured I'd check.

    To clarify: on the wiki, it states that Enervation gives -8 MDB and Benthic gives -10% MDB, would these count as different stats or were the people that wrote the article mouth breathers? (no offense to anyone here who may have contributed to it >_>)

  20. #8920
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    [[BLUSkill*0.11]*2] + 3 = X
    *3 is when Efflux is up

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