Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[dannyl]

Meh I still prefer plenilune. You really shouldn't need to be spamming cures on yourself to begin with. And yay str stats on it and more hp cured. Slightly less mp efficient but more time efficient and slightly ups your dmg

I actually got this very question yesterday. "Why fruit over plenilune". Everything about it simply makes it a no-decision. Of course, its whatever your used to, but the spell-pts, MP-cost, and recast / and i'm pretty sure its a faster cast spell as well alone really make it worth it. Although I am still perfecting my MND set for it, I can easily dish out @ or over 500 HP from the delicious fruit.

[Sylvrdragon]

What Draylo said. EVA set is for solo or if you're low-manning something without a healer. If you're tanking something with a healer, then let them worry about keeping you alive and you just focus on damage unless their MP gets low or you're taking too much damage for them to keep up with.

[Atoreis]

I actually got this very question yesterday. "Why fruit over plenilune". Everything about it simply makes it a no-decision. Of course, its whatever your used to, but the spell-pts, MP-cost, and recast / and i'm pretty sure its a faster cast spell as well alone really make it worth it. Although I am still perfecting my MND set for it, I can easily dish out @ or over 500 HP from the delicious fruit.

Dasva is Taru and that may explain why he care less for mp efficiency (Or STR+ on plenilune). Personally as Galka I's obvious for me what is better and I even recognize good BLUs like that. Is someone is casting Plenilune ( and is not Taru ) then I am almost sure it's either noob, burned BLU that have no idea about the job or just a normal BLU who have no idea about the job.

On the other hand Taru or not Fruit is better in 95% situations.

[kenshyn]

Stating fruit vs plen argument to determine if someone is noob or not a good blu is just about the most BS i have ever read on these forums....

[Atoreis]

Stating fruit vs plen argument to determine if someone is noob or not a good blu is just about the most BS i have ever read on these forums....

First I said "almost" there. I always ask that person why is he doing that and 95% of the time he have no idea/bad idea or saying because it's healing for more and have no MND set.
Second of all.. Are you using Plenilune?

[kenshyn]

So you really go out your way to ask people why they are casting Plenilune? Really you have nothing better to do in game than that. >.> and you really don't get how ridiculous this is lol...

It's pretty easy to spot a bad blu the biggest clue is they do dick for damage not what heal they cast.....

The answer to your question is shit is situational as most things in this game...

[Yugl]

I usually ask people why they are using Embrace if they're not main healing (Fruit + Embrace is a good combo; even then, Fruit is like 2s recast with just haste and haste gear). If they think it's good, I tell them the benefits of the alternative. If they don't comply, then I just leave them since I'm generally the main BLU within my main group.

[Draylo]

I don't think it matters if you are taru or not lol, that's like a difference of 200 mp... Which is one P embrace or one and a half if its a bit more than 200 mp from a Hume at least. I really dislike P embrace unless I am relying on the heals, like main healing then I might set it.

[kenshyn]

Man entering the spell set nazi zone lol sorry I like 15% mab I promise not to cast it again >.> or wait 15% attack what blu needs that for cdc situational shit for a situational based game... Set it and forget it hell naw shit is situational lol.....

[Kaslo]

So you really go out your way to ask people why they are casting Plenilune? Really you have nothing better to do in game than that. >.> and you really don't get how ridiculous this is lol...

It sounds like you've never been to BG before lol

[kenshyn]

It sounds like you've never been to BG before lol

I know it just never ceases to amaze me tho....

[Atoreis]

I know it just never ceases to amaze me tho....

what's bad in telling ppl how to improve their job?

[dasva]

I've never needed to spam healing on my blu so the mp efficiency hasn't been an issue outside of soloing outside of abyssea and not in campaign. So the str, att, mab benefits outweight the mp I wasn't using anyways

[Draylo]

Or you could save the one set point and use fantod and get agi and dex for BT/CDC and just pop a stalwarts drink for the atk or a ascetics if you needed mab lol and then use the extra 40mp to toss out a delta thrust that would do more dmg than any of the P embrance benefit.

[dasva]

Or you could save the one set point and use fantod and get agi and dex for BT/CDC and just pop a stalwarts drink for the atk or a ascetics if you needed mab lol and then use the extra 40mp to toss out a delta thrust that would do more dmg than any of the P embrance benefit.

I set fantod anyways so moot point. And inside abyssea my mp is a complete non issue. Can't think of the last time it was under 500 except CW burning and being weakened. So again mp I wasn't using. But I guess if you don't have CDC and no refresh gear...

And sure I could pop a drink in abyssea. But by that same logic I could just pop an elixer

[kenshyn]

Never knew I get ascetics and stalwards everywhere and even have them perma in abyssea without constantly replenishing them >.>. And to the above not everyone wants or needs your opinion on better, the world be a better place if more people learn that. If someone asks you great to force your unasked for opinion as the only way not so much....

[Sylvrdragon]

From what I can tell, there are much more obvious indicators of a BLU being bad. Honestly, if they just have gear swaps and use stuff that actually boosts whatever they're doing, then I consider them "good".

I don't start worrying about stuff like which Cure spell they use (or really what spells they set at all) unless I'm comparing 2 expert BLUs, or if they ask me specifically how they can improve.

[Atoreis]

Never knew I get ascetics and stalwards everywhere and even have them perma in abyssea without constantly replenishing them >.>. And to the above not everyone wants or needs your opinion on better, the world be a better place if more people learn that. If someone asks you great to force your unasked for opinion as the only way not so much....

Personally I hate ppl that are playing defensive when you tell them some tips and going emo with "Don't teach me how to play my job, I play it 4 years". Cool if someone is playing their job wrong for 4 years and want to continue then fine ( and I'm not even talking about details like fruit vs embrace but some more fundamental things ) but if success of the event depends on someone that I see is doing something wrong than I'm trying to do the same stuff like Yugl. I ask them why they do some things and give them a well known (for more advanced players) advices. If they saying me gtfo I just ignore them but many times ppl are actually grateful. Other way around when someone tells me advice about my playing I not only listen to them but even ask more if they tell me something interesting. There is nothing more annoying that pride emo noobs ewww....

[kenshyn]

Nothing more annoying than think they know it all Buttinski in my book its a double edge sword and it's easy to fall on it. Basically people develop play-styles and to be honest as long as they aren't doing retarded shit or last on the parse for the most part its on them and okay by me. Those that want to learn will ask and seek helpful advice the difference between heals is tiny in the grand scheme of playing actually playing the job well. Normally once a another blu sees what you can do they will ask and you don't have to ask them at all about it. Its pretty much lead by example in my book....

[Sylvrdragon]

Nothing more annoying than think they know it all Buttinski in my book its a double edge sword and it's easy to fall on it. Basically people develop play-styles and to be honest as long as they aren't doing retarded shit or last on the parse for the most part its on them and okay by me. Those that want to learn will ask and seek helpful advice the difference between heals is tiny in the grand scheme of playing actually playing the job well. Normally once a another blu sees what you can do they will ask and you don't have to ask them at all about it. Its pretty much lead by example in my book....

It's true. The best compliment is when they say "BLU OP!" or "Holy shit, I need to level BLU", which I tend to get a fair bit these days. I don't often find myself head to head with other BLUs though, as most of the stuff I do is lowman and almost nothing requires more than 1 BLU.