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  1. #9101
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    It's not really something special with spellcast. If you blink at the right time you don't get locked when doing jas, spells and ws. Spellcast just makes it easy since it automatically will switch you back to an idle set and you can tweek the timing. People been blinking out locks forever. In fact iirc Kaekos solo guides had entire sections on them lol
    I tried all kind of blinking with Chocobo jig and it seems to be impossible to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    I tried all kind of blinking with Chocobo jig and it seems to be impossible to do.
    SE specifically made Sambas and Jigs unblinkable. I'm not sure about Waltzes, but I think you can. I know you can blink Reverse Flourish.

  3. #9103
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    Should order matters when building rules for BLU?
    i.e. Does it matter if I write the rule for legs lock trigger to mavi tayt when Efflux active _before_ or _after_ the blue magic casting set check?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Esvedium View Post
    Atmas I've been using are Lion, Blinding Horn and MM (should switch for Ultimate, I know...)

    I know full well that I'm missing quite a bit of gear, as my BLU was recently aby-burned to 90. I'm working on getting it better geared, but in the meantime, I'm also working on a refresh pin and 6/6 dark rings for me and my wife's character, and working on getting some xp for a friend that has a new character. I don't need to be superawesomeoneshoteverything good to kill EP/DC mobs in Konschtat.

    Also, why would you change Loki's to Teal if under BA? I have teal for non-BA, but honestly, I can't remember a time when I've CW'd without BA up.

    Thanks for the answer, Nightfyre.
    I read somewhere (cant find on bg where) that MAB edges out loki's Dex modifiers. On wiki says that CW is strongly modified by MAB. Of course I could be wrong....but brain somehow recalls someone comparing the difference between wearing teal / lokis. Of course if you have morrigans thats a moot point

  5. #9105
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daruma View Post
    I read somewhere (cant find on bg where) that MAB edges out loki's Dex modifiers. On wiki says that CW is strongly modified by MAB. Of course I could be wrong....but brain somehow recalls someone comparing the difference between wearing teal / lokis. Of course if you have morrigans thats a moot point
    The benefit of MAB will depend on the base damage (after WSC), so the more you boost DEX, the more damage MAB can potentially add. There is no single 'right' answer therefore so "oh DEX+ is much better than MAB+" isn't always correct, and you can't even reliably say 'well 4DEX ~= 2MAB' or whatever either. Plug the numbers in to see which is better.

  6. #9106
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daruma View Post
    I read somewhere (cant find on bg where) that MAB edges out loki's Dex modifiers. On wiki says that CW is strongly modified by MAB. Of course I could be wrong....but brain somehow recalls someone comparing the difference between wearing teal / lokis. Of course if you have morrigans thats a moot point
    I like when some idiots write something like that on wiki lol. MAB works the same in 99% examples. Same for WSs and idiots writing "it's heavily modified by att". When you start to explain noobs like that what is pDIF they react something like "I dont want to know this its just a game I play for fun!"... morons....

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    ah ok. Well good that clears that up. Balance means everything for blue.

    On a side note has anyone had this happen to them - weapon skills + CA not creating SC while using a macro and yet other times creating a SC? I am attributing it to lag but something tells me that might even be wrong. My delay from say Savage to gob rush or quad is <wait3>...but sometimes it goes off...and others i have to manually do it. Should I instead remove CA from the macro or does this have more to do with lag/blinking gear?

    Here is my macro for shits:

    /exec blahblahblah/STR.txt (gear swap)
    /ja "chain affinity" <me> <wait2>
    /ws "savage blade" <t> <wait3>
    /ma "goblin rush" <t>

  8. #9108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daruma View Post
    ah ok. Well good that clears that up. Balance means everything for blue.

    On a side note has anyone had this happen to them - weapon skills + CA not creating SC while using a macro and yet other times creating a SC? I am attributing it to lag but something tells me that might even be wrong. My delay from say Savage to gob rush or quad is <wait3>...but sometimes it goes off...and others i have to manually do it. Should I instead remove CA from the macro or does this have more to do with lag/blinking gear?

    Here is my macro for shits:

    /exec blahblahblah/STR.txt (gear swap)
    /ja "chain affinity" <me> <wait2>
    /ws "savage blade" <t> <wait3>
    /ma "goblin rush" <t>
    I would just make 2 macros. One for WS and one for CA+spell. I don't even macro CA. First it will let you avoid stupid situation when mob will start to move when you click macro and you will lost TP. It will also let you cast as soon as it is possible after ja/ws delay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    I tried all kind of blinking with Chocobo jig and it seems to be impossible to do.
    I know people have .dat edited out dnc stuffs to avoid the lock.

  10. #9110
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdgreg View Post
    I know people have .dat edited out dnc stuffs to avoid the lock.
    I'm pretty sure you couldn't do it by the time DNC was released. Was it changed ?

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    datmodding dances can get you in trouble though, not something you want to exploit around people you don't know. If you're around people you trust then save yourself the hassle and use JA0Wait.

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    Yeah, you can definitely .dat mod dances. JA0wait is a far superior solution though, because you can turn it on and off based on who is around without logging off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightfyre View Post
    datmodding dances can get you in trouble though, not something you want to exploit around people you don't know. If you're around people you trust then save yourself the hassle and use JA0Wait.
    This explains the guy I saw running with Ninja frog emote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    I would just make 2 macros. One for WS and one for CA+spell. I don't even macro CA. First it will let you avoid stupid situation when mob will start to move when you click macro and you will lost TP. It will also let you cast as soon as it is possible after ja/ws delay.
    Hell ill try that out too. The reason why I even made a macro in the first place was because I used to be able to time ca ws blu spell perfectly all the time manually. Now in the past month i cant sc for shit really annoys me. Could be that we moved to new server and lag is up the ass...but ill try this too to see what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daruma View Post
    ah ok. Well good that clears that up. Balance means everything for blue.

    On a side note has anyone had this happen to them - weapon skills + CA not creating SC while using a macro and yet other times creating a SC? I am attributing it to lag but something tells me that might even be wrong. My delay from say Savage to gob rush or quad is <wait3>...but sometimes it goes off...and others i have to manually do it. Should I instead remove CA from the macro or does this have more to do with lag/blinking gear?

    Here is my macro for shits:

    /exec blahblahblah/STR.txt (gear swap)
    /ja "chain affinity" <me> <wait2>
    /ws "savage blade" <t> <wait3>
    /ma "goblin rush" <t>
    I think I use 4 you can go to fast as well as to slow to get the skill chain and on losing tp that's a job for spellcast lol....

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    Or perhaps CA is suffering from the same glitch as Azure Lore where there seems to be a delay in adding SC Properties to spells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daruma View Post
    Hell ill try that out too. The reason why I even made a macro in the first place was because I used to be able to time ca ws blu spell perfectly all the time manually. Now in the past month i cant sc for shit really annoys me. Could be that we moved to new server and lag is up the ass...but ill try this too to see what happens.
    Is there any possibility that it is chaining and you're just blinking it out so you don't see the SC?

  18. #9118
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegetatheprince View Post
    This explains the guy I saw running with Ninja frog emote.
    Nah you can actually bypass the animation. Just start running just before you do the /jobemote nin and you can run with it, you won't see it but others will.

  19. #9119
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    In regards to calculating D of physical Blue Magic Skills, how much Blue Magic Skill can you add before it caps?

    I've read that the cap is 14-15 levels above the level you learn the spell.

  20. #9120
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekundes View Post
    Is there any possibility that it is chaining and you're just blinking it out so you don't see the SC?
    I thought that too at first...but there is no record of it happening in the log. And that is after multiple times. Sometimes it fires off and sometimes it doesnt : | I have even tried with and without blinkmenot...same thing happens.

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