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  1. #9161
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    Works w/ Diffusion
    Noice- I wasn't expecting it to. Going to bed slightly less mad at SE lol...

  2. #9162
    The Once and Future Wamoura
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    Thunderbolt did 798 dmg to a Wasp outside Jeuno (regular TP gear, didn't put on MAB or staff etc) Might test it w/ Convergence in a few

    From what I can tell with the Store TP testing (its annoying w/o plugins), if it is a bonus its a bonus of 5 STP.

    (Where's an Icarus Wing when you need one?)

    Donation of an Icarus Wing! It does in fact, provide an additional 5 STP when all four spells are set.

    I only put two merits in Convergence b/c I was lazy but Thunderbolt gave me an 877 dmg that time, so looks like probable for Convergence bonus (plus it ate the buff)

  3. #9163
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    Thunderbolt damage testing

    goddamnit i've been sub RDM this entire time gaaaaaaaaaaaughjhsadkjdhs

    OK HERE WE GO, LEVEL ONE SJ (i love the fact it tells you that you've gained xp when deleveling yourself)
    BLU95/BST1
    Spoiler: show

    STR 70
    DEX 79
    VIT 70
    AGI 70
    INT 70
    MND 70
    CHR 71

    Blue Magic Skill: 16...

    Yeah, I have DEX merits. No, I don't know why either.

    Target: Wild Rabbit, West Ronfaure
    Damage dealt: 632

    Apparently... I reset my skill levels... I don't... even... what...

    the post below me has more pertinent data and really i'm kind of flabbergasted and have stuff to do now so :s

  4. #9164
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    Heavy Strike: Damage varies with TP.
    92BLU
    STR+2
    32MP
    Type: Physical
    Element: N/A
    2 Set Points

    Casting Time: 1 second
    Recast Time: 30 seconds

    Notes:
    10 casts, naked except for Almace, buffless, and on Wild Rabbits: 1152, 1043, 1144, 1185, 1174, 1178, 1098, 1041, 1156, 1164

    10 casts, STR gear, and buffless: 1324, 1488, 1510, 1484, 1511, 1513, 1342, 1500, 1515, 1448





    Sudden Lunge: Damage varies with TP. Additional effect: "Stun."
    95BLU
    HP-5 MP-5 DEX +1 AGI +1
    18MP
    Type: Physical
    Element: N/A
    4 Set Points

    Casting Time: 1 second
    Recast Time: 12 seconds

    Notes:
    10 casts, naked except for Almace, buffless, and on Wild Rabbits: 378, 411, 276, 334, 303, 392, 400, 291, 393, 337

    10 casts, STR gear, and buffless: 368, 419, 379, 366, 287, 324, 384, 424, 394, 331

    Does not reduce caster's HP. The stun lasted for several seconds.





    White Wind: Restores HP of all party members within the area of effect.
    94BLU
    HP+5 AGI +1
    145MP
    Type: Magical
    Element: Wind
    5 Set Points

    Casting Time: 7 seconds
    Recast Time: 20 seconds

    Notes: Restored 706 HP with cruor buffs and no gear (2473 HP). Restored 844 HP with HP gear equipped (2692 HP). Restored 758 with Serpentes set. HP recovered is effected by cure potency and maximum HP, it is not effected by MND. Unknown if number of party members has any impact at this time.





    Barrier Tusk: Reduces the amount of damage you take.
    91BLU
    HP+15 MP-15 VIT +3
    41MP
    Type: Magical
    Element: Earth
    3 Set Points

    Casting Time: 6 seconds
    Duration: 60 seconds
    Recast Time: 60 seconds

    Notes: There appears to be some type of extra effect attached to Barrier Tusk. With 427 blue magic skill, it cut 1000 needles' damage down to 850.





    Water Bomb: Deals water damage to enemies within area of effect. Additional effect: Silence.
    92BLU
    MP +20 INT+4 MND+2 STR-3 VIT-3
    67MP
    Type: Magical
    Element: Water
    2 Set Points

    Casting Time: 3 seconds
    Recast Time: 32 seconds

    Notes:
    Naked, buffless, and on a Wild Rabbit: 348

    INT gear (no MAB added, INT 78+28 MND74+20), buffless, and on a Wild Rabbits: 394

    Full nuke set (MAB+36 INT78+56 MND74+41), buffless, and on a Wild Rabbit: 612

    The silence effect lasted for 60 seconds.




    Mortal Ray: Inflicts Doom upon an enemy.
    91BLU
    STR +2 MND +2
    267MP
    Type: Magical
    Element: Darkness
    4 Set Points

    Casting Time: 8 seconds
    Recast Time: 2 minutes 30 seconds

    Notes: Gaze attack with incredibly low accuracy, probably based on the level of your target vs. your level. The doom effect appears to take 60 seconds to kill the target.





    Dark Orb: Deals dark elemental damage to an enemy.
    93BLU
    AGI+2 MND+2
    153MP
    Type: Magical
    Element: Darkness
    3 Set Points

    Casting Time: 9 seconds
    Recast Time: 1 minute 12 seconds

    Notes:
    Naked, buffless, and on a Wild Rabbit: 710

    INT gear (no MAB added, INT 78+28 MND74+20), buffless, and on a Wild Rabbits: 794

    Full nuke set (MAB+36 INT78+56 MND74+41), buffless, and on a Wild Rabbit: 1217





    Thunderbolt: Deals Lightning damage to enemies within the area of effect. Additional effect: "Stun."
    138MP
    Type: Magical
    Element: Lightning

    Casting Time:

    Notes: Very low damage, but outstandingly long stun duration.





    Harden Shell: Enhances defense.
    20MP
    Type: Magical
    Element: Earth

    Casting Time: 3 seconds
    Duration: 90 seconds

    Notes: +100% Defense

  5. #9165
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    Well shit. Harden Shell + Barrier Tusk = profit

    Barrier Tusk looks to be a phalanx type move, or perhaps a phalanx with a twist (e.g. % reduction). Needs more testing on that one for sure. 1000->850 is -15% damage taken, since I can't imagine them giving us 150 damage phalanx lol

  6. #9166
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    I think I am about to burst just wow never thought they give us all that I am one mfing happy blu Harden Shell + Barrier Tusk just gave me wood lol

    Can someone test harden shell + cocoon + sa+ca+efflux+ canonball lol

  7. #9167
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    The phalanx is definitely very bizarre.



    Worth noting that the reduction on 1000 needles wasn't effected by blue magic skill at all, and I saw no noticeable decrease in damage taken from melee hits.

  8. #9168
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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    Probably skill based.

    Also they've managed to somehow arrange the spell list correctly on this test server.

  9. #9169
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    That's the thing, there was no difference in damage reduction based on skill.

  10. #9170
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    I'd bet it's a percentage reduction (like 15%) applied at the end. Your 2 damage spikes were reduced by 15% and floored to 1. Try subbing RDM, using both forms of Phalanx (see if they stack) and eating 1000 needles.

  11. #9171
    Sho
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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothescar View Post
    That's the thing, there was no difference in damage reduction based on skill.
    Ahh weird. what Byrth said, try with /RDM!

  12. #9172
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    Doing dark orb testing at the moment, will go do that ASAP. Dark Orb itself looks very promising.

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    Or stack with pdt gear to see if/how it works with that too. Would be pretty awesome if it allowed us to go passed the cap. Actually I wouldn't mind too much if it just added. Allow me to idle in less pdt/mdt while doing stuff while still capping

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    Quote Originally Posted by TummieGaruda View Post
    Hardened Shell is 100% Defense Bonus
    Mortal Ray takes FOREVER to kill a mob


    Acrid Stream + Demoralizing Roar + Empty Trash + Heavy Strike = Triple Attack
    Approximate TA rate?

  15. #9175
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    Request testing of physical damage type, go to apollyon SE...able to set your own limbus timer there? Not hard either way, just curious.

  16. #9176
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    Perhaps Barrier Tusk saying that it gives Phalanx is a bug, and it just gives -15% damage taken?

  17. #9177
    Sho
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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Approximate TA rate?
    I would assume it was base 5% like THF trait. SE won't go out of their way to screw people over like that. >.>

    Also if it matters BLU/WAR can maintain Double Attack & have Triple Attack.

  18. #9178
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    Hmmm any words about physical damage reduction by barrier tusk?

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    still working on it

  20. #9180
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    I recommend to test it on RNG gigas (or any RNG mobs, really). Hopefully their pDIF is on "stable" state (hence, the same number everytime they hit you by ranged attack), so you can easily tell how much physical damage reduction was done.

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