Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Clash Perez]

I would assume it was base 5% like THF trait. SE won't go out of their way to screw people over like that. >.>

Also if it matters BLU/WAR can maintain Double Attack & have Triple Attack.

This might be interesting if combining the new Dual Wield spell produces Dual Wield III.

If noone has tested that by the time I finish downloading and installing, I'll give it a go.

[Rocl]

This might be interesting if combining the new Dual Wield spell produces Dual Wield III.

If noone has tested that by the time I finish downloading and installing, I'll give it a go.

I don't have the means nor the patience to do the test myself, but I would not be surprised, considering some of the traits levelled up. (Then again, I would also not be surprised if it didn't change.)

[VZX01]

They did say Dual Wield is one of those "enhance-able" traits on official forum. So I'm guessing it will be enhanced to DW III

[Prothescar]

Ok done with testing the magical spells.

Dark Orb is dINT*2, 40% INT, 4.5fTP

Water Bomb dINT*1.5, 20% INT 10% MND, 2fTP

[Sho]

I tested Dual Wield on /WAR with all spells set, looks like DW2 or I suck at the maths, or there's a 5.0 TP floor on the test server. >.> I'll try with high delay stuff.

[Tambor]

I dunno, we only got 1 extra DW spell this update it seems. I could see us needing to wait till 99 when they add a 6th spell. Not sure if I will be setting TA, 7 set points to go from DA to TA is pretty steep although it is nice that Heavy Strike + Empty Thrash will give us DA - 5 Setpoints for 5STR + DA and what looks like a good damaging spell. Anyone on the test server able to see if Heavy chains to CDC?

[Masamune]

Since 1000needles is magical damage, Spikes too, my understanding is BarrierTusk = -15% MAGIC damage reduction actually?

I have no idea off memory how to test reliably physical damage reduction...

Also is there an updated Renkei somewhere including Empyrean WSs and BLUspells SC connections?

[kenshyn]

Ok done with testing the magical spells.

Dark Orb is dINT*2, 40% INT, 4.5fTP

Water Bomb dINT*1.5, 20% INT 10% MND, 2fTP

Man dark orb looks fin hawt can't wait to try that with atma of the cosmos will it replace cw??? stay tuned....

[VZX01]

Since 1000needles is magical damage, Spikes too, my understanding is BarrierTusk = -15% MAGIC damage reduction actually?

I have no idea off memory how to test reliably physical damage reduction...

Also is there an updated Renkei somewhere including Empyrean WSs and BLUspells SC connections?

Refer to my method above. Find a RNG mob, find the one that will have pDIF = 1.0 (maybe DC~EP gigas on A La theine?) when they hit you. ranged attack has low and high pDIF = 1.0 when the cRatio is 0.9~1.1

[Tambor]

1000 needles from mobs is physical damage, reduced by things like earth staff, atleast that is what I remember

[Rocl]

Since 1000needles is magical damage,

Was fairly certain for monsters it was physical damage and only for Blue Mages it was magic damage. I could swear I remember Umbra Cape's nighttime bonus was proven on Cactuars.

[Prothescar]

Phalanx overwrites Barrier Tusk, but Barrier Tusk cannot overwrite Phalanx. (This is with no enhancing skill+)

With Barrier Tusk + Terra's Staff, 1000 needles did 680.

Barrier Tusk + 44% PDT, 1000 needles did 487.

Looks like a 15% reduction that's added after PDT.

Hardly of any interest. :\


@Kenshyn, dark orb won't replace charged whisker. It's single target...

[Valisk]

Man dark orb looks fin hawt can't wait to try that with atma of the cosmos will it replace cw??? stay tuned....

Dark Orb: Deals dark elemental damage to an enemy.

Unless the description is wrong, it looks like it is single target.

[VZX01]

I can just hope it's a bug. But I doubt it... why create a new variable for damage reduction?

[Sho]

BLU/BLM (no suppa, no store TP) with all spells set and 504 combined delay only put out 11.6 TP per attack round (DW2).

BLU/DNC all spells set 11.6 TP per attack round (DW2)

BLU/NIN = 10.4 TP per (/NIN trait)

I don't think we got DW3 at all naturally. That or it's a bug. Someone please correct me if this is wrong.

[Clash Perez]

That should be be sufficient.

Disappointing, but not unexpected. Hopefully we'll see DWIII by 99.

[kenshyn]

Phalanx overwrites Barrier Tusk, but Barrier Tusk cannot overwrite Phalanx. (This is with no enhancing skill+)

With Barrier Tusk + Terra's Staff, 1000 needles did 680.

Barrier Tusk + 44% PDT, 1000 needles did 487.

Looks like a 15% reduction that's added after PDT.

Hardly of any interest. :\


@Kenshyn, dark orb won't replace charged whisker. It's single target...

doh damn what a let down guess i just assumed aoe lol

Dang well maybe heavy strike at least can make it into play lol curious of its mods looks like str and a new SA candidate...

[Sho]

Water Bomb can be flung from about 15~16 yalms away.

[Sylvrdragon]

Hmmm, Dark Orb + Everyone's Grudge... looks like we're establishing a Nuke base that can get by on one Atma set.

Edit:Hey Proth, did you test to see if AGI was a mod to Dark Orb? Mods often match the stat boosts that setting the spell gives (like Charged Whisker). If you didn't test it, perhaps Dark Orb also has an AGI mod and we can abuse it inside Abyssea similar to CW.

[Byrthnoth]

Regurgitation/Cursed Sphere/Water Bomb too?