Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Sylvrdragon]

Well, the reason you check the Magic Bursts is because it doesn't show a skillchain animation even if you don't blink, so you don't know which SC it made. Trying to gauge it just by how much damage it did could cause some errors. Also, if it didn't have Animation, then we can't be 100% sure it didn't SC with Savage Blade when it was first tested.

[dasva]

Well, the reason you check the Magic Bursts is because it doesn't show a skillchain animation even if you don't blink, so you don't know which SC it made. Trying to gauge it just by how much damage it did could cause some errors. Also, if it didn't have Animation, then we can't be 100% sure it didn't SC with Savage Blade when it was first tested.

I know. But given the limited number of possible skillchains possible you wont need to cast most elements. In fact you only need to cast 2 elements to verify if it did indeed skillchain with the spell. Maybe 1 more to distinguish between fusion and light. 2 elements flat out can't MB anything CDC starts.

On a side note not sure I'd use it to skillchain if it doesn't make lvl 3 and/or it works with +crit atmas inside since other skillchains are decently better if those stats posted are right

[Sylvrdragon]

A fair point. I'm just not well enough versed in Skillchain mechanics to know exactly what you can make off of which base properties.

[Prothescar]

It does work with crit atmas. I was hitting for 3k without any JAs up @@

[dasva]

It does work with crit atmas. I was hitting for 3k without any JAs up @@

Nice. Now if it really does end a lvl 3....

[Sylvrdragon]

Hmm, that could be a pretty compelling argument in favor of SS over GH for Almace Atmas. Even more-so if it replaces Typhoon as the new CDC closer spell, as we wouldn't benefit nearly as much from the 50 AGI anymore. Granted, Abyssea may die very quickly once this update officially hits.

[Byrthnoth]

Just to make sure I understand what's going on with BLU traits, each trait takes some minimum number of appropriate spells to obtain (most often 2). For instance, you could equip Battle Dance and Upper Cut or Battle Dance and Death Scissors to get Attack Bonus I.

However, if you equip twice as many spells as you need to get the base trait, you get the next tier of the trait. So equipping Battle Dance, Uppercut, Death Scissors, Spinal Cleave, Temporal Shift, and Thermal Pulse would give you Attack Bonus III. Is this correct, and does this rule always work?

[dasva]

No that rule doesn't always work. In fact until this test server only DW could go to tier 2 and clear mind I think

[Rocl]

Also, White Wind makes Auto Regen when paired with any other spell which previously made it (Sheep Song, Healing Breeze) but equipping all three won't give you Auto Regen II. Also Auto Refresh is all fucked too, so there's that. I'm also relatively sure a lot of Job Traits don't level up, it's not the normal status quo. That may have changed post 80 though, I don't keep the most accurate of tabs.

[Byrthnoth]

Until the test server, you only had four spells that could give Dual Wield, right? So you'd expect to equip all four and get Dual Wield 2?

To be clear, what I mean is:
* If you need two spells equipped to get a trait ->
* You need four spells equipped to get Tier 2 trait ->
* You'd need six spells equipped to get Tier 3 trait ->
etc.

So you can get Beast Killer level II, Accuracy Bonus II, Attack Bonus III, Dual Wield II... That's not correct?

[Foldypaws]

Just to make sure I understand what's going on with BLU traits, each trait takes some minimum number of appropriate spells to obtain (most often 2). For instance, you could equip Battle Dance and Upper Cut or Battle Dance and Death Scissors to get Attack Bonus I.

However, if you equip twice as many spells as you need to get the base trait, you get the next tier of the trait. So equipping Battle Dance, Uppercut, Death Scissors, Spinal Cleave, Temporal Shift, and Thermal Pulse would give you Attack Bonus III. Is this correct, and does this rule always work?

That's generally how it works, however it only works for some traits. Attack Bonus isn't one of them, you only ever get Attack Bonus I no matter how many spells you set.

[Byrthnoth]

Ah, okay. And Accuracy Bonus is limited to level 1 too?

[dasva]

Like I said pretty sure only clear mind and DW went passed 1 before now. Then again testing for killer traits 2 would be kinda annoying. Heck don't think bst even got them till recently

[Rocl]

On the Test Server, Max HP Boost levels up and I am almost certain Store TP does as well. Also I don't know if formal testing was done on Conserve MP, but that seems unlikely.

[Byrthnoth]

Like I said pretty sure only clear mind and DW went passed 1 before now. Then again testing for killer traits 2 would be kinda annoying. Heck don't think bst even got them till recently

It's probably worth making the distinction between discovering that traits level up and the traits actually leveling up. I'd be a little surprised to find that some of the BST traits weren't tier 2 by level 75 already. It's just that there wasn't an easy way to measure intimidation rate before Ferine Gausape +1/2.

BLU gets Beast Killer at level 4. I'd be unshocked to learn that they get a second tier at level 62.

[Yugl]

I highly doubt that since the old SE (LV62 realm) didn't give us much leeway with traits building (I think Clear mind was the only one then). It's not until recently that BLU is experiencing leveled up traits.

[Vathris]

Just to make this clear... we are getting a low mp and recast spell with 75%STR as a modifier that always crits and it does a lvl3 light skillchain with CDC??

Edit: hitting F5 compulsively wishing someone replies with yes <.<
When is the update anyway¿?

[Alistaire]

If it were Fusion/Frag, then it would close Light from Savage Blade too. Now that we know that it cancels Animation, we can go back and test via Magic Bursts.

You could just pop 2hr and do Heavy Strike > CDC.

[Foldypaws]

Like I said pretty sure only clear mind and DW went passed 1 before now. Then again testing for killer traits 2 would be kinda annoying. Heck don't think bst even got them till recently

It's not particularly annoying. Agro a bunch of low level mobs of the appropriate type and run parser overnight with some auto-regen. It's how I showed DRG has Dragon Killer II.

[dasva]

It's not particularly annoying. Agro a bunch of low level mobs of the appropriate type and run parser overnight with some auto-regen. It's how I showed DRG has Dragon Killer II.

I just meant compared to like idk almost every other trait lol.