Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Airshort7]

I hit 75 blu 2 nights ago, its fun stuff.

Ballista is just amazing now. Ive only played as blm and whm (sleepga and diaga - -...) but now that Im soloing ninjas without any trouble its fun fun :D

[DrObvious]

25% slow sounds like alot for filamented hold, but what is the slow spell? Because while testing with a friend, Slow would overwrite hold, but not the other way around. Leads me to believe that the slow spell is more powerful, leaving hold out of all spell setups except for solo play.

Slow caps at 30% and it's strength is dependent on your mnd vs the target's mnd. Typically it's not going to be possible to have a 30% slow against something like an IT or hnm.

Whether a spell overwrites or not doesn't determine anything about the strength. Hojo ni always overwrites slow but has a static effect of ~19%.

edit:

Your results are pretty much the same as the guy who posted brenner results, with these exceptions, most importantly:

He had filamented hold = bad breath = radiant breath = 19%

He had lowing as -5 tp/tick instead of -3.

And pretty unimportant: He had wild oats = stinking gas = -9 vit and cold wave = -39 agi

[Not Kuno]

Can Voratious trunk or whatever steal a mobs 2hr? Or a special form like that big bull shit in Uleguarand or Jailer of Fortitute?

[Araius]

Hopefully this hasn't been mentioned already, sorry if it has Read through about 15 pages and learned a lot but it's getting late >.> So I'll give this a shot.

I've been forum hopping all over the place trying to get my BLU SC chart completed. It's well on its way to being all done but I'm still missing about a half dozen spells. Thanks to Battosi and everyone else that's posted on KI and other places helping me finish this :D When it's all done, Aden can use it to add this all to his Renkei chart like he's done so far.

Anyways here it is so far:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27.../blurenkei.jpg

The spells I'm missing and need tested still are:

58 - Flying Hip Press
62 - Body Slam (likely has multiple SC traits)
63 - Frypan
63 - Hydro Shot
63 - Spinal Cleave (likely has multiple SC traits, possibly 3)
69 - Hysteric Barrage (likely has multiple SC traits)
69 - Tail Slap

Also there may be spells on there that have multiple SC traits that haven't been discovered yet, so lemme know if you know of more.

Haven't had any luck on ffxionline, Alla, or KI as far as getting help with this is concerned, hopefully luck is a little better here

[FFXIFlux]

Hydro Shot is water, Spinal Cleave is wind, Frypan is thunder.

edit: Spinal Cleave also closes scission so it's earth as well, not sure which is B. Hysteric Barrage is wind (closes detonation). Tail Slap is water (closes reverb).

[Khamsin]

Is Radiant Breath as dangerous in Ballista as it is in Bhaflau Thickets?

[Koga]

Is Radiant Breath as dangerous in Ballista as it is in Bhaflau Thickets?

If you stay alive longer than 5 seconds while you attempt to cast it.

[Khamsin]

Is Radiant Breath as dangerous in Ballista as it is in Bhaflau Thickets?

If you stay alive longer than 5 seconds while you attempt to cast it.

I take it BLU beastmen are quicker at casting blue magic, and have farther range, than players?

[Priran]

Is Radiant Breath as dangerous in Ballista as it is in Bhaflau Thickets?

If you stay alive longer than 5 seconds while you attempt to cast it.

I take it BLU beastmen are quicker at casting blue magic, and have farther range, than players?

Mob BLU magic is instant cast, even shit like 1000 Needles

[Not Kuno]

Another random question:

What the crap is up with refueling? I'm only 2 levels under it but I can't learn it for the life of me. I'm starting to think that whole "can learn spells 10 lvls under" gets alot smaller the higher level you get. Anyone have any ideas/suggestions?

[FFXIFlux]

Another random question:

What the crap is up with refueling? I'm only 2 levels under it but I can't learn it for the life of me. I'm starting to think that whole "can learn spells 10 lvls under" gets alot smaller the higher level you get. Anyone have any ideas/suggestions?

I think it's 6 levels once you get in the 60s. Actually I think it's based on your blue magic skill and not actually your level.

[Araius]

Hydro Shot is water, Spinal Cleave is wind, Frypan is thunder.

edit: Spinal Cleave also closes scission so it's earth as well, not sure which is B. Hysteric Barrage is wind (closes detonation). Tail Slap is water (closes reverb).

Awesome :D Updated accordingly

[Celeras]

I think it's 6 levels once you get in the 60s. Actually I think it's based on your blue magic skill and not actually your level.

50s. I exp'ed on lesser colibri from 55-59 exclusively, and I learned Feather Tickle at 58. Ive had another Blu in my LS say the same thing, so unless someone tells us different we've been going by that.

[aurik]

If it is based on your Blue magic, it could be they need to be within skill+30.
At low level you get 3 skill per level so that can be read as level+10
At high level you get 5 skill per level so that can be read as level+6.

[Tanthalas]

Another random question:

What the crap is up with refueling? I'm only 2 levels under it but I can't learn it for the life of me. I'm starting to think that whole "can learn spells 10 lvls under" gets alot smaller the higher level you get. Anyone have any ideas/suggestions?

It's probably just one of your "cursed spells" - everyone has that one spell that's just unlucky and doesn't seem to want to be learned.

If your server is anything like mine, I'm sure you have a bunch of BLU leveling in your range. Take a few of them with you, along with maybe a RDM and BRD and you guys should be able to kill the Clusters in Riverne Site with no problem. Head Butt cycles are nice, but it's got a pro and a con -- you might stun Refueling... now that's a question for you guys out there:

Can you stun a mob trying to do a learnable move... and still learn it?

[Koyangi]

Even if it won't happen next update, I was speculating some interesting ideas to put in BLU's job specific merit categories. Perhaps 1 would be to increase set points by 1 like Kick Attacks or Counter (max of +5). Any of you people have other ideas?

P.S. Is max at 75 45 or 50?

[Tanthalas]

P.S. Is max at 75 45 or 50?

45

[Not Kuno]

Another random question:

What the crap is up with refueling? I'm only 2 levels under it but I can't learn it for the life of me. I'm starting to think that whole "can learn spells 10 lvls under" gets alot smaller the higher level you get. Anyone have any ideas/suggestions?

It's probably just one of your "cursed spells" - everyone has that one spell that's just unlucky and doesn't seem to want to be learned.

If your server is anything like mine, I'm sure you have a bunch of BLU leveling in your range. Take a few of them with you, along with maybe a RDM and BRD and you guys should be able to kill the Clusters in Riverne Site with no problem. Head Butt cycles are nice, but it's got a pro and a con -- you might stun Refueling... now that's a question for you guys out there:

Can you stun a mob trying to do a learnable move... and still learn it?

I have alot of cursed spells. :/ And I have a bst friend help me kill clusters in Mt Z. But it's just not happening, despite being just 2 lvls below it. Same with Self-Destruct. These bombs dont fucking like me.

[Araius]

Same with Self-Destruct. These bombs dont fucking like me.

Amen :/

I went 1/1 on Refueling on the low level cluster in Lufaise though, at level 42.

[Cythe]

Not sure if this was asked yet, but has anyone figured out a reliable way to break the horns on Imps? I'm being told WS when their horn is out, but it seems to be doing nothing..