Blue Mage: Best thread ever

**Draylo** · 2011-09-02 20:54

Was there an updated before you logged in?

**Prothescar** · 2011-09-02 23:51

There was, and it seems like Dark orb does in fact take less MP, they just haven't updated the tooltip.

Masamune · 2011-09-03 04:03

How bad HeavyStrike accuracy now ? Worse or still better than Benthic ?

**Atoreis** · 2011-09-03 06:12

Originally Posted by Prothescar

The accuracy doesn't appear to be too heavily nerfed. However, Dark Orb still costs the same amount as before, so it's possible that they haven't even pushed the BLU update yet.

I would really be thankful if you could try to cast 100 Heavy strike on mobs outside of town ( The one around lvl 1 ) to check if they haven't nerfed the accuracy cap for this spell. ( I am aware that 100 casts is too low to check this for sure )

**Prothescar** · 2011-09-03 18:58

Had done around 300 while doing something else and didn't miss any more than normal.

**Foldypaws** · 2011-09-03 19:13

Originally Posted by Prothescar

Had done around 300 while doing something else and didn't miss any more than normal.

Sex panther, just like I said XD

**VZX01** · 2011-09-04 11:50

So about barrier tusk... Does it stack with /RDM phalanx?

**Atoreis** · 2011-09-04 11:54

Originally Posted by VZX01

So about barrier tusk... Does it stack with /RDM phalanx?

I Like when ppl put some effort to get an answer on their own...

Check several pages back and ctrl+f Prothescar

**VZX01** · 2011-09-04 12:43

Page 460... that's pretty far back.

Anyway, I think barrier tusk will replace phalanx for /RDM easily for any damage > 100, no?
I don't have RDM sub, so I'm just guessing we can't get our enhancing skills beyond 170 using RDM sub, can we?

**Prothescar** · 2011-09-04 13:30

Can it replace it? Yes.

Should it be used in any except certain circumstances (Tanking higher tier Voidwatch NMs and the like)? No.

The casting time is a drawback in itself, but the duration is a severe detriment in the overall usefulness of the spell. I don't see myself casting it unless it's going to make a significant impact on the damage I take.

**Atoreis** · 2011-09-04 13:39

Originally Posted by VZX01

Page 460... that's pretty far back.

Anyway, I think barrier tusk will replace phalanx for /RDM easily for any damage > 100, no?
I don't have RDM sub, so I'm just guessing we can't get our enhancing skills beyond 170 using RDM sub, can we?

I think you missing the point of phalanx. Phalanx is almost always casted to reduce 50-100% damage taken and very often to just got hit by 0. You cant do it with Barrier Tusk. While at some point they reduce same amount of damage those 2 spells have completely 2 different purpose.

**Prothescar** · 2011-09-04 14:29

Precisely, Barrier Tusk has uses but they aren't very vast. Same can be said for normal Phalanx when it's as weak as we get it from /RDM.

**Yugl** · 2011-09-04 15:42

Originally Posted by Atoreis

I think you missing the point of phalanx. Phalanx is almost always casted to reduce 50-100% damage taken and very often to just got hit by 0. You cant do it with Barrier Tusk. While at some point they reduce same amount of damage those 2 spells have completely 2 different purpose.

That was his point. The other point that he's trying to make is that Barrier Tusk will outperform Phalanx (Assuming 200 Enhancing skill at 99) when you're taking 240 or greater damage.

**Atoreis** · 2011-09-04 16:25

Originally Posted by Yugl

That was his point. The other point that he's trying to make is that Barrier Tusk will outperform Phalanx (Assuming 200 Enhancing skill at 99) when you're taking 240 or greater damage.

Replacing something you dont use is irrelevant...

You sub /rdm to use phalanx when it let you mitigate 50-100% of damage so around <35 damage in which case barrier tusk is almost useless.
If you fighting something that hit for 200 you are on other sub. Even if you are on /rdm for some reason then phalanx is just some small addition that you barely care to cast.

**Yugl** · 2011-09-04 16:46

That doesn't stop the statement from being true.

**Atoreis** · 2011-09-04 17:27

Originally Posted by Yugl

That doesn't stop the statement from being true.

If you want to be so nitpicking then I would say NO statement isnt true because it wont REPLACE phalanx because both effects stack. EDIT oh wait they dont. Still its like saying that Umbra cape can replace phalanx at some damage range. It's just stupid...

Barrier Tusk and phalanx have 2 different uses. Stop being stubborn.

**Yugl** · 2011-09-04 17:59

Originally Posted by Atoreis

If you want to be so nitpicking then I would say NO statement isnt true because it wont REPLACE phalanx because both effects stack. EDIT oh wait they dont. Still its like saying that Umbra cape can replace phalanx at some damage range. It's just stupid...

Barrier Tusk and phalanx have 2 different uses. Stop being stubborn.

That's exactly he's saying. Why do you feel the need to start arguments over statements you agree with? On that note, they're both used to mitigate damage, so it's not much of a difference in intention of use.

**Koyangi** · 2011-09-04 19:43

They are both different and provide different effects, so they don't "stack" per se. Doesnt Barrier Tusk just go hand in hand with your -pdt and then phalanx is counted last?

**Yugl** · 2011-09-04 19:45

Barrier Tusk: 15% PDT that is multiplicative to current PDT
Phalanx: A static damage reduction dependent on Enhancing Skill

They are mutually exclusive.

**montgomery** · 2011-09-04 20:39

ITT: Hao dose falanks werk?

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