Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[dasva]

Haha bring wars to feed the blu heavy strike spam

[Atoreis]

Haha bring wars to feed the blu heavy strike spam

+20% to miss is still miss ^^

[dasva]

Shut up and go merit mp!

[doctorugh]

+20% to miss is still miss ^^

So the hit rate cap is 80% for that spell, or does it just get -30 acc (in comparison to most other spells)?

[Atoreis]

So the hit rate cap is 80% for that spell, or does it just get -30 acc (in comparison to most other spells)?

I have no idea I only know what Prothescar wrote about his experience with it on Hahava ( he was missing a lot even with sushi with STR gear ) and that NM isnt even that evasive.
I'm considering doing 2x dex ToM sword just for this spell now.

[Atoreis]

So the hit rate cap is 80% for that spell, or does it just get -30 acc (in comparison to most other spells)?

I have no idea I only know what Prothescar wrote about his experience with it on Hahava ( he was missing a lot even with sushi with STR gear ) and that NM isnt even that evasive.
I'm considering doing 2x dex ToM sword just for this spell now.

[Nightfyre]

Hitrate cap is still 95%, he was talking about +20% critdmg. Prothescar was guessing at a ~-70 acc penalty earlier, I'd assume that's using the +20~30 acc most spells get as a baseline.

[Daruma]

well shiiiaat. I post one little thing about benthic hitting that high and uh...I guess I spilled the milk And yes of course I meant w/ SA inside abyssea with good atmas + gear. Without SA I can hit the usual CAEF 1-2.5k (if lucky on the 2k and up part ) Sorry to derail things into a cluster fuck lol just was trying to answer someones question.

[Prothescar]

Hitrate cap is still 95%, he was talking about +20% critdmg. Prothescar was guessing at a ~-70 acc penalty earlier, I'd assume that's using the +20~30 acc most spells get as a baseline.

Current projection is at least that. I don't have the time or willpower to do any more testing on it right now, gonna wait until after it hits live.

Edit: JP forums were on about how shit the -ACC on Heavy Strike is too, they got a dev response saying something along the lines of, "Balance, we know what we're saying".

[Yugl]

Wheres the post?

Edit: One of the posts from that thread:

What is a little different I say so rubbing Blue Mage
Please adjust your stupid job is more properly say so

As you are saying more than a game I have lettuce, and balance.
In some jobs and jobs for top and bottom of the current situation has completely collapsed balance

Of the above, please understand that somehow.

Thread stain I'm sorry everyone, and Blue Mage

Oh google translate, I am to lazy to fix you.

[Prothescar]

Dunno which thread it is, it was referred to me and I don't remember the squiggle speak lingo that was the title.

[Yugl]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...l=1#post198070

Np, I found it.

[Nightfyre]

The devs have lettuce, good to know.

[Esvedium]

It has both lettuce and balance though. What more could you ask for?

[Prothescar]

The post from the JP BLU Job Adjustment thread:

Hello.

I was watching a little trend, and this truly progresses, please keep the description it will be desirable.

"A heavy blow in the downward revision was not if there is no test server?" Might want to come, there is no such a thing.


This is a story going back to the foundation of the operational test server.

Major premise, various data is introduced into the test server under development, please catch it and those in the unadjusted or adjusted. That is, at the same time you touched everyone that was introduced at the test server, and check the balance and failure to validate the development team and QA team also.

Not be able to slide this process, but suffers it can shorten our feedback from your statement, if you came out of the need to recreate large in some cases because they are experiencing extra work, also benefits for everyone, and little or no thought for us.


In other words, the purpose of this case, "Adjusting the heavy blow," is that was done even without the test server.
(As an aside this is, "parting-of-four" is a strong verification phase was much more magic, has been adjusted to the current power through a similar process.)

There are also other people post, and then to introduce a weak pre-condition is easy.
That we do adjust production in response to your feedback, and it is much easier.
However, it is not meant to do that, do not even want to think.

This is because of your ideas and comments are very valuable, please let me very seriously since.


You've got to ask you again on here.

More than a game, there is balance.
What is introduced into the test server during development or is being adjusted and unadjusted.
Regardless of whether the test server, the possibility to adjust the non-enhanced and relaxation is.
Reflect on your comments and all that's not possible.


Of the above, please understand that somehow.

Parting-of-four = Quad. Continuum, so apparently they nerfed that too. My friend was testing attack bonuses on spells and made a note that it seemed weaker...

Basically what I gather is, "Fuck you, we would have nerfed it with or without the test server. Oh, and we nerfed QC too, eat shit."

Edit: SINCE IT APPEARS TO BE NECESSARY.

DISCLAIMER: Do not take the above as absolute, concrete fact. It is not. There has been no testing done on the possibility of a QC nerf, as of now it is a projection and, drawing from the JP Dev post above, a possibility.

[Sekundes]

If this is true then the blu 95 update is spiraling in to hell.

[Daruma]

A blue mage walks into the room. Countless job classes stare with wry grin. The red mage looks up from crying in his hands all day with a pint of shitty beer next to him. A look of joy comes across his face as he rushes to bear hug the unsuspecting blue mage. The conversation that follows is one to be told in legends...

blue mage: WTF!@?!?
red mage: hi neighborr!!
blue mage: get the fuck away from me!
red mage: why?...don you know ? Din u red the board? We ar nefr brudders!!
blue mage: ... (stares in disbelief)
red mage: awww comon my table is ovar thar! Btw how do you like ur QC now? Isnt it peechy like...you is so nice to mobnnssters now ! I like fruit, do you like fruit? How is the weather today? I heard we might have a tornado? Are you going to the ball this friday? How about....
blue mage: ....where the fuck is my sword! Gods please give me a quick end!

[Helel]

I can't read JP, but just from looking at the translation, it sounds like they're saying the nerf to heavy strike would have happened regardless of the test server data or not. The post seems to address the concern JPs are having that the test server acts as something negative toward BLUs. They're arguing that had the test server not been implemented before this update, the nerf never would have happened. So this dev guy responds by saying that they had previously nerfed QC before it was released, and before the test server had been open to the public. He's arguing that the QA team has previously nerfed BLU spells before their release, and therefore the nerf to heavy strike is not something that resulted as a consequence of the new test server.

Edit: so basically it looks like there's no hope for any sort of fix. I need to start working on acc swords I guess.

[Prothescar]

You see, you'd think that the test server would prevent idiotic, heavy handed nerfs like these. Was that not the goal behind it, to have the players voice feedback on stupid decisions like this? What's the point if they're going to ignore it all anyway?

[dasva]

You see, you'd think that the test server would prevent idiotic, heavy handed nerfs like these. Was that not the goal behind it, to have the players voice feedback on stupid decisions like this? What's the point if they're going to ignore it all anyway?

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