Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Vegetatheprince]

I know it was like it on the test server (didn't bother with it because I assumed it was a mistake) but Sudden Lunge is so epicly awesome. Was doing IT puks for White Wind without evasion or PDT set and could get two to four spells off between stuns without it building resist. Even if NMs build resist in 2 shots this is an amazing spell normal mob soloing.

As far as exact stun duration its more or less 12 seconds average, with a 8 to 23 second window from what I've seen so far.

[kenshyn]

Updated my resources and changed the name to Mv. Bazubands +2 works for me this am.

[Odin'sLaw]

I know it was like it on the test server (didn't bother with it because I assumed it was a mistake) but Sudden Lunge is so epicly awesome. Was doing IT puks for White Wind without evasion or PDT set and could get two to four spells off between stuns without it building resist. Even if NMs build resist in 2 shots this is an amazing spell normal mob soloing.

As far as exact stun duration its more or less 12 seconds average, with a 8 to 23 second window from what I've seen so far.

this its like head butt+2 damage is low but when your opponent can't act for 10 seconds doesn't really matter

[Demonofhunger]

Is anyone getting good regular hits from Heavy Strike? It seems to do about 1K to regular EM mobs and less to ITs, something that is not really worth the massive acc problems even with the low cost.

Even the CA + Efflux hits are not too impressive for me and seem to hover around 3K, definitely not the giant numbers being posted. My blue skill is not capped yet, but a single tier is not pushing an extra 2-3K of damage.

[Vegetatheprince]

Is anyone getting good regular hits from Heavy Strike? It seems to do about 1K to regular EM mobs and less to ITs, something that is not really worth the massive acc problems even with the low cost.

Even the CA + Efflux hits are not too impressive for me and seem to hover around 3K, definitely not the giant numbers being posted. My blue skill is not capped yet, but a single tier is not pushing an extra 2-3K of damage.

To me it's just a nice replacement for Aqua and Vanity. I love having a solid single hit spell for when I want a low tp feed and outside of abyssea the dmg is awesome for the mp cost.

[Roundelk]

Is anyone getting good regular hits from Heavy Strike? It seems to do about 1K to regular EM mobs and less to ITs, something that is not really worth the massive acc problems even with the low cost.

Even the CA + Efflux hits are not too impressive for me and seem to hover around 3K, definitely not the giant numbers being posted. My blue skill is not capped yet, but a single tier is not pushing an extra 2-3K of damage.

On dolls in Altepa I broke 5k with alot of 4.5k+ with CA+Efflux, without any JA boost it would hover around 1.2k-1.9k this is with SS RR AaO atmas and using QC gear, was doing alittle less on bluffalos in ulegrand(w/e) and while I was learning waterbomb from poroggo's in la thiene I was popping them for easy 2k+, but yea it misses a few times and I was thinking of putting pure high Acc gear in certain slots.

[Prothescar]

It looks like our Triple Attack is at or slightly below that of a THF's.

4984 attacks, 4.61% Triple Attack


Edit: going to do it again tonight because some of the parse seems kinda fishy.

[Angeluzun]

Does Occultation get a 9th shadow at 450 skill? Someone made a post about it a while back but I think it was from before the test server went up. Only at 420 skill atm with all gear I have, so I thought I'd ask here

[Prothescar]

yes

[Yugl]

It looks like our Triple Attack is at or slightly below that of a THF's.

4984 attacks, 4.61% Triple Attack


Edit: going to do it again tonight because some of the parse seems kinda fishy.

Did you use fish method for this, and if so, what was the gear set up for fSTR flooring?

[Prothescar]

Did you use fish method for this, and if so, what was the gear set up for fSTR flooring?

No I used a fortilace with no weapon equipped so I could sleep while I did it.

Edit: That is, I had no weapon equipped so I could sleep without worrying about the fortilace dieing before I got a decent sample size, fish would have worked too but I couldn't be arsed to bother with it as it was 6AM.

[Nevex]

Out of curiosity, what's the status of the job now?
I quit before the introduction of Abyssea when the level cap was still 75, and BLU was often shunned for being outclassed by most jobs when playing specific roles. As a physical DD most melee jobs were better, as a tank RDM and PLD were better, as a magic DD BLM was better, as a soloer RDM better etc.
BLU's main advantage was its versatility which wasn't really needed in FFXI. Its other niche was Head Butt stunning but it wasn't reliable against most endgame enemies.

I see that BLU got many nifty tricks and significant boosts but how does the job keep up compared to the others?

[Neviskio]

Quick question: as for subjobs I guess it's still mainly nin and sometimes rdm? LS is arguing(rudely too...) that rdm is the main sub and doing /nin is mostly doing it wrong, unless you plan to get hit(which, on most nms will happen).Am I wrong being a stalwart /nin player and should change to almost full time /rdm, especially into abyssea and maybe vw or I'm doing it right?

I'm without an almace if that helps, and I kinda have the basics for the job, nothing too fancy.

[Daruma]

You definately don't NEED to be subbing rdm. Everything is situational. I would say that /rdm outside of abyssea is pretty phat now because of the endless mp pool at your fingertips. Inside though you can get away with nin, rdm, dnc, thf, and the occasional whm if you are duoing shit and main healing...yes I said main healing Rdm inside has some nice tricks up its sleeve like fast cast and matk bonuses that the other classes do not have. Depends on if you are more DD oriented or nuke oriented I would say.

[dasva]

/nin gets DWIII which is huge considering the melee potential of blu especially inside. Also if you aren't planning getting hate and getting hit on blu when you DD you are doing it wrong

[VZX01]

Quick question: as for subjobs I guess it's still mainly nin and sometimes rdm? LS is arguing(rudely too...) that rdm is the main sub and doing /nin is mostly doing it wrong, unless you plan to get hit(which, on most nms will happen).Am I wrong being a stalwart /nin player and should change to almost full time /rdm, especially into abyssea and maybe vw or I'm doing it right?

I'm without an almace if that helps, and I kinda have the basics for the job, nothing too fancy.

I thought I've convinced myself that RDM sub is for :
- Nullifying physical damage from trash mob with Phalanx
- Cheap MDB trait if you're gonna face something that spam magic damage
- Fast cast for.. uhh.. idk.. is it even relevant for anything other than utsusemi casting?

I still find /NIN is more useful in many situations

[dasva]

Fast cast is still marginally useful reduction in recast timers for spell spamming and stuff like Occulation. Slightly more MAB for when you are just nuking.

[Prothescar]

Alright, second test is over.

7300 Melee Attacks, 4.59% Triple Attack rate

So yeah, looks to be a little under 5%. Still better than our gimp DA trait, but still disappointing considering how fucking expensive TA is.

[Byrthnoth]

Well, 95% confidence interval still includes 5%, and this would be the only known case of a <whole number DA/TA rate.

[Vegetatheprince]

So yeah, looks to be a little under 5%. Still better than our gimp DA trait, but still disappointing considering how fucking expensive TA is.

Even if it was 1 point for each of the 2 extra spells that's 4 spell slots for 1 ja. Doesn't seem worth the effort sans a situation where you sub war and go full melee.